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Post by Sha-Le Unique on Apr 5, 2015 11:31:07 GMT -5
As for Stobbs and Cox, Stutter tried to trade them, but didn't find any legit offers and didn't wanna extend them, hence why they became free agents.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Apr 5, 2015 11:43:45 GMT -5
Mouthiest fourth place team owner I've ever seen in my life. lmao @ trading 80 reward points in one day. I'd have more championships than you if I started with what you did. Get out of my trade blocks with your shitlording. |
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Post by Spencer on Apr 5, 2015 11:46:48 GMT -5
Gold.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Apr 5, 2015 12:00:56 GMT -5
He talks so much shit when he's been handed everything he has lol Of course he hasn't fucked it up when you make 1 move every 2 years it's hard to. |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Apr 5, 2015 12:01:22 GMT -5
That 4th place team is only 8 games behind him
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Apr 5, 2015 12:29:13 GMT -5
Not to mention I'm in the toughest division in the league lol
I'd be 2nd in his division
And he has the gall to come at me for no reason lol
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Post by soonerfantu on Apr 5, 2015 12:31:43 GMT -5
He talks so much shit when he's been handed everything he has lol Of course he hasn't fucked it up when you make 1 move every 2 years it's hard to. I've made 2 or 3 times as many moves in this league as you have. Matter of fact, I'd argue that I've probably been involved in more trades in this league than any other team. I've traded away players that are better than anybody you currently have on your roster. Let that sink in. |
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Post by soonerfantu on Apr 5, 2015 12:34:00 GMT -5
As for Stobbs and Cox, Stutter tried to trade them, but didn't find any legit offers and didn't wanna extend them, hence why they became free agents. BS. He wasn't serious about trading them at all. I know. I inquired. And there is no such thing as a "legit offer", when the alternative is to let them walk. One 2.5* prospect that may never even make the big leagues, and saving millions in salary, is better than letting them walk. That is just stupid for a team already lacking talent to do that. It's a waste. And it's why the same teams will be at the top year after year in this league. Because they are the smart ones. Just like GABL, some teams/owners will keep their teams in the basements almost the entire time. |
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Post by soonerfantu on Apr 5, 2015 12:41:24 GMT -5
I haven't sent Shale an offer since last season. And if Drowe wants to hold onto a 34 year old starting pitcher when he isn't a team that is going to compete for the playoffs in the next 1-3 years, that is his prerogative. Seem to be a lot of owners in this league that would rather lose with 34 year olds on their team, or refuse trade offers only to let guys walk into FA (thinking Stobbs and Cox from LAA here). Just makes no sense. Isn't good business. But it helps me in the long run, so I shouldn't complain. I told DRowe he should have already traded Simmons, but he deserves at least 1 top spect for him and not just a bunch of your extra depth guys that no one clearly wants. I talked to him. You offered 4 or 5 of those extra depth guys in your Triple A for both Simmons AND Buddin. If that doesn't scream rape, I don't know what does... A coupe of points. 1. No, Simmons isn't "deserving" of a top prospect. That isn't how this league works right now. It's not how GABL was most of the time either. That is simply not the "cost" of a player that old. It's not. SF traded Roberts and didn't receive a top prospect. Did he get ripped off? I bet there are tons of other examples too, I just don't have the time to find them today. It's apparent to me that break has no idea what "fair" is in this league. 2. I never really made an official offer to Drowe. I told him I wouldn't overpay for Simmons. And I thru out a list of names including a 26 year old SP that was a top 50 prospect less than a year ago, a C that was a top 50 prospect a year ago (before turning 25), a 28 year old guy in AAA that is Good in Hits (7 rating) and Good in BB's (6 rating). And a few other solid players. And that was just my INITIAL list. It's called negotiations. I'm not going to lead with my best offer. But on my list were 2-3 guys that would have easily become top 10 players on his team immediately. Not everybody I offered him was in AAA. Most weren't. Most were/are on my ML roster. I find it funny that there is a little group of you that talk about this stuff behind closed doors. Run your own teams. |
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Post by soonerfantu on Apr 5, 2015 12:43:00 GMT -5
I'd be 2nd in his division No. You wouldn't. At least, you wouldn't have the same record that you have now. NL > AL. Your record would be worse. And if you were in 2nd, you'd be a long ways back in 2nd. |
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Post by Danny Glover on Apr 5, 2015 12:54:47 GMT -5
As for Stobbs and Cox, Stutter tried to trade them, but didn't find any legit offers and didn't wanna extend them, hence why they became free agents. BS. He wasn't serious about trading them at all. I know. I inquired. And there is no such thing as a "legit offer", when the alternative is to let them walk. One 2.5* prospect that may never even make the big leagues, and saving millions in salary, is better than letting them walk. That is just stupid for a team already lacking talent to do that. It's a waste. And it's why the same teams will be at the top year after year in this league. Because they are the smart ones. Just like GABL, some teams/owners will keep their teams in the basements almost the entire time. You offer was pretty piss poor dawg. Guy tries to sale a bad trade.... Dudes cry too much around here |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Apr 5, 2015 13:09:51 GMT -5
I'd be 2nd in his division No. You wouldn't. At least, you wouldn't have the same record that you have now. NL > AL. Your record would be worse. And if you were in 2nd, you'd be a long ways back in 2nd. Suck my balls? I don't give a fuck about you dude. You're the one who came into my block for no other reason than spite. |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Apr 5, 2015 13:11:11 GMT -5
A league isn't better when the top teams are better.
It's better when more teams are winning.
But of course you wouldn't be one for parity.
AL is way better than the NL as a league right now.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Apr 5, 2015 13:12:58 GMT -5
Every time I bring up the fact that I have a pitcher on the DL all fucking year since early May who would have easily carried me to 3-4 more wins by now and had me in tight in this race you just bring up a bs point that doesn't fucking matter to my point.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Apr 5, 2015 13:14:04 GMT -5
As for Stobbs and Cox, Stutter tried to trade them, but didn't find any legit offers and didn't wanna extend them, hence why they became free agents. BS. He wasn't serious about trading them at all. I know. I inquired. And there is no such thing as a "legit offer", when the alternative is to let them walk. One 2.5* prospect that may never even make the big leagues, and saving millions in salary, is better than letting them walk. That is just stupid for a team already lacking talent to do that. It's a waste. And it's why the same teams will be at the top year after year in this league. Because they are the smart ones. Just like GABL, some teams/owners will keep their teams in the basements almost the entire time. Maybe he'd rather let them walk then sell them to a douchebag like you for cheap. |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Apr 5, 2015 13:15:51 GMT -5
And for the record I KNOW 100% I gave better offers than you ever did for Simmons and it wasn't enough for him to pull the trigger so suck my nuts.
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Post by Danny Glover on Apr 5, 2015 13:16:47 GMT -5
^^^^lol'd
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Post by bigmark on Apr 5, 2015 13:28:38 GMT -5
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Post by soonerfantu on Apr 5, 2015 13:54:14 GMT -5
And for the record I KNOW 100% I gave better offers than you ever did for Simmons and it wasn't enough for him to pull the trigger so suck my nuts. Not working today? |
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Post by soonerfantu on Apr 5, 2015 13:54:37 GMT -5
BS. He wasn't serious about trading them at all. I know. I inquired. And there is no such thing as a "legit offer", when the alternative is to let them walk. One 2.5* prospect that may never even make the big leagues, and saving millions in salary, is better than letting them walk. That is just stupid for a team already lacking talent to do that. It's a waste. And it's why the same teams will be at the top year after year in this league. Because they are the smart ones. Just like GABL, some teams/owners will keep their teams in the basements almost the entire time. You offer was pretty piss poor dawg. Guy tries to sale a bad trade.... Dudes cry too much around here What was my offer? |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Apr 5, 2015 13:56:28 GMT -5
And for the record I KNOW 100% I gave better offers than you ever did for Simmons and it wasn't enough for him to pull the trigger so suck my nuts. Not working today? It's a holiday fucktard. |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Apr 5, 2015 13:56:55 GMT -5
You're the one who came in here looking for trouble dude
Just fuck off.
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Post by soonerfantu on Apr 5, 2015 13:58:19 GMT -5
Uhh, those types of places are open today. |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Apr 5, 2015 14:04:34 GMT -5
Not around here they aren't.
I don't live in corporate America bro
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Post by Sha-Le Unique on Apr 5, 2015 14:37:39 GMT -5
I told DRowe he should have already traded Simmons, but he deserves at least 1 top spect for him and not just a bunch of your extra depth guys that no one clearly wants. I talked to him. You offered 4 or 5 of those extra depth guys in your Triple A for both Simmons AND Buddin. If that doesn't scream rape, I don't know what does... A coupe of points. 1. No, Simmons isn't "deserving" of a top prospect. That isn't how this league works right now. It's not how GABL was most of the time either. That is simply not the "cost" of a player that old. It's not. SF traded Roberts and didn't receive a top prospect. Did he get ripped off? I bet there are tons of other examples too, I just don't have the time to find them today. It's apparent to me that break has no idea what "fair" is in this league. 2. I never really made an official offer to Drowe. I told him I wouldn't overpay for Simmons. And I thru out a list of names including a 26 year old SP that was a top 50 prospect less than a year ago, a C that was a top 50 prospect a year ago (before turning 25), a 28 year old guy in AAA that is Good in Hits (7 rating) and Good in BB's (6 rating). And a few other solid players. And that was just my INITIAL list. It's called negotiations. I'm not going to lead with my best offer. But on my list were 2-3 guys that would have easily become top 10 players on his team immediately. Not everybody I offered him was in AAA. Most weren't. Most were/are on my ML roster. I find it funny that there is a little group of you that talk about this stuff behind closed doors. Run your own teams. Simmons is 2 years younger than Roberts and making significantly less money, so he would certainly be more deserving of better value than Roberts right now. Not to mention the ridiculous stats Simmons has consistently put up over the past 5-6 seasons. More of an apples and oranges comparison than you may think. And just because players that are not in your top 10 could become top 10 players on another team doesn't mean that that team should just settle for those guys when better value could be acquired. Are those guys you were offering decent? Sure. Are any of them difference makers? No. They're slight upgrades from what the Phillies already have. Yes, most of their lineup is old and way their primes, but I feel DRowe can do better than that for Simmons and especially Buddin, who is a stud. And to your last point, it's not like there are secret discussions about anything like this. Basically, let's say in a hypothetical situation, someone PM's me a laughable offer that is clearly not in my favor at all. I may message Break or DRowe or Stutter on Facebook and laugh about it for 30 seconds just because it's very convenient and why not? That's all it is really. |
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