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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 28, 2023 16:31:51 GMT -5
Even if I wasn't guaranteed to get him, it's quite clear the motivation to lower him was solely based on my fandom of him.
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Jul 28, 2023 16:31:55 GMT -5
when did shale take over the redsox and the cards? when is this untrue? We both know why Pedroia was fucked over. Don't play dumb. It's because I agreed with you.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 28, 2023 16:32:49 GMT -5
The Cano argument holds no water considering he traded for him well after he was drafted
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bigmark
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Post by bigmark on Jul 28, 2023 16:32:50 GMT -5
Was on breaks side til saying Steib wasn't elite. Now I can't trust anything you say lol
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 28, 2023 16:33:37 GMT -5
Was on breaks side til saying Steib wasn't elite. Now I can't trust anything you say lol I hate the blue jays it's just east hate lol he was elite for a short time, and above average overall, hall of very good player for sure
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 28, 2023 16:34:35 GMT -5
Pedroia was knocking on a HOF possiblity until Manny Machado spitefully ended his career
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dougiejays
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Post by dougiejays on Jul 28, 2023 16:37:20 GMT -5
nah, never had a top 3 CY year, was at his peak #4, and 2 times #7. That's a pitcher with a few great years and above average the rest. If he was never an elite pitcher and Pedroia was an elite bat, then how come Steib had a higher career WAR?
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 28, 2023 16:41:40 GMT -5
nah, never had a top 3 CY year, was at his peak #4, and 2 times #7. That's a pitcher with a few great years and above average the rest. If he was never an elite pitcher and Pedroia was an elite bat, then how come Steib had a higher career WAR? pWAR and oWAR aren't the same thing lmao
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 28, 2023 16:47:37 GMT -5
WAR also varies by position, they're both above the lowest HOF war, but below the average HOF war.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 28, 2023 16:50:57 GMT -5
Pedroia without the Machado injury would have at least reached average HOF WAR for a 2B, even if he wasn't the same guy for the last 4 years.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 28, 2023 16:51:21 GMT -5
4 years @ 2-3 WAR was all he needed
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heatflash
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Post by heatflash on Jul 28, 2023 16:52:19 GMT -5
Cano was a better hitter than pedroia and the only reason he was argued down was because…cano was a better hitter and didn’t get brilliants. I also said pedroia should have been brilliant hits. But changing it years later is stupid as fuck and if we’re doing that we should move cano up as well.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 28, 2023 16:55:24 GMT -5
Cano was a better hitter than pedroia and the only reason he was argued down was because…cano was a better hitter and didn’t get brilliants. I also said pedroia should have been brilliant hits. But changing it years later is stupid as fuck and if we’re doing that we should move cano up as well. Steroids.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 28, 2023 16:55:37 GMT -5
Your name is also out of date.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 28, 2023 16:56:19 GMT -5
Pedroia was also the better 2b overall, Cano was a butcher at 2b
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 28, 2023 16:56:49 GMT -5
Cano was a better hitter than pedroia and the only reason he was argued down was because…cano was a better hitter and didn’t get brilliants. I also said pedroia should have been brilliant hits. But changing it years later is stupid as fuck and if we’re doing that we should move cano up as well. this is also such a fucking lie you said it ONCE after it was far too late. you argued harder than anyone on your deleted account to lower him.
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jul 28, 2023 16:57:01 GMT -5
when is this untrue? We both know why Pedroia was fucked over. Don't play dumb. It's because I agreed with you. no... that's how you got included. shale
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stooolfan
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Post by stooolfan on Jul 28, 2023 16:57:49 GMT -5
Can Peavy get brill walks I think he was rated wrong
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 28, 2023 16:58:51 GMT -5
It's because I agreed with you. no... that's how you got included. shale I'm objectively the only person who's ever had a draft pick lowered by non-existent "tanking rules" that were only ever applied to me once.
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jul 28, 2023 16:58:53 GMT -5
btw I love that I post the exact logic used for ratings then get accused of never posting how the rating happened... eh, what can you do.
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jul 28, 2023 16:59:27 GMT -5
no... that's how you got included. shale I'm objectively the only person who's ever had a draft pick lowered by non-existent "tanking rules" that were only ever applied to me once. wrong, we've covered this a few times...
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 28, 2023 16:59:27 GMT -5
again, by mob rule
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 28, 2023 16:59:43 GMT -5
I'm objectively the only person who's ever had a draft pick lowered by non-existent "tanking rules" that were only ever applied to me once. wrong, we've covered this a few times... Nope, there was never any rules. I'm not wrong.
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heatflash
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Post by heatflash on Jul 28, 2023 16:59:55 GMT -5
Pedroia was also the better 2b overall, Cano was a butcher at 2b We’re talking hitting talents lol
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stooolfan
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Post by stooolfan on Jul 28, 2023 17:00:23 GMT -5
Can we make Hudson 5 years younger to match my other pitchers age ?
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