Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Aug 22, 2018 11:49:50 GMT -5
I seem to trade pretty well with others. Hmmm. Good luck with that then... cause you'll never see another deal from me again. douche. Ha. Im surprised you took this so poorly. Its just my opinion. Mustve struck pretty close to home to make you this angry. |
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Post by Spencer on Aug 22, 2018 11:50:29 GMT -5
Dont worry. Future better behavior will prove me wrong Im sure. Gl Mark!
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Aug 22, 2018 11:51:29 GMT -5
I seem to trade pretty well with others. Hmmm. Good luck with that then... cause you'll never see another deal from me again. douche. I've dealt with you both and Spencer is definitely one of the easiest GMs to talk with he's pretty flexible. You're pretty stingy but so are most of the regularly competing GMs here |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Aug 22, 2018 11:53:01 GMT -5
I've seen how much you value your low 1st round pick Mark lol
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bigmark
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Chicago White Sox
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Post by bigmark on Aug 22, 2018 11:53:23 GMT -5
Good luck with that then... cause you'll never see another deal from me again. douche. Ha. Im surprised you took this so poorly. Its just my opinion. Mustve struck pretty close to home to make you this angry. Nah, just dont like petty shots but if you are going to say something. I'm not one to sit and take it. |
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bigmark
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Post by bigmark on Aug 22, 2018 11:55:17 GMT -5
I've seen how much you value your low 1st round pick Mark lol I value all firsts....its how you keep a solid system while competing. i've never once had to fully tank rebuild like so many others. I'm only doing it now by choice for something different to do. I'm sure if i didnt trade off my assets this season id still be winning the wild card......and losing to Detroit lol |
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Aug 22, 2018 11:55:47 GMT -5
Ha. Im surprised you took this so poorly. Its just my opinion. Mustve struck pretty close to home to make you this angry. Nah, just dont like petty shots but if you are going to say something. I'm not one to sit and take it. It wasnt intended as a petty shot. I think youre a poor evaluator of talent and overvalue your players. I feel that way about many GMs here. You can take it as constructive critiscm or take it as an insult. Thats on you. |
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Aug 22, 2018 12:59:16 GMT -5
I know I overvalue my players. I'm trying to become less stingy and obnoxious, but it's been a hard task so far!
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Post by Matt on Aug 22, 2018 13:00:38 GMT -5
But I'm never going to be the guy who trades a top 5 or so prospect or a 1st round pick for a 34 year old or older guy.
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Aug 22, 2018 13:10:53 GMT -5
But I'm never going to be the guy who trades a top 5 or so prospect or a 1st round pick for a 34 year old or older guy. We get to value people however we want. When we differ on one player its whatever. When a GM continuously values his players more then what you offer its annoying. |
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bigmark
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Post by bigmark on Aug 22, 2018 13:44:28 GMT -5
But I'm never going to be the guy who trades a top 5 or so prospect or a 1st round pick for a 34 year old or older guy. We get to value people however we want. When we differ on one player its whatever. When a GM continuously values his players more then what you offer its annoying. Maybe you should offer good players. |
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Post by Matt on Aug 22, 2018 13:49:48 GMT -5
We get to value people however we want. When we differ on one player its whatever. When a GM continuously values his players more then what you offer its annoying. Maybe you should offer good players. I over-offered for Ozzie. You still said no. |
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bigmark
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Post by bigmark on Aug 22, 2018 13:56:16 GMT -5
Maybe you should offer good players. I over-offered for Ozzie. You still said no. If I remember correctly. You offered stuff I had no interest in. In a package and I also stated multiple times I didn't want to deal him and the only way would be an over the top offer. I drafted and upgraded him cause I wanted him. |
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bigmark
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Post by bigmark on Aug 22, 2018 14:01:28 GMT -5
I think i even remember saying the offer wasnt bad I just didn't want to deal him. Spencer on the other hand lowballs then wonders why you won't deal him brilliant hitters.
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Post by Sha-Le Unique on Aug 22, 2018 14:27:00 GMT -5
But I'm never going to be the guy who trades a top 5 or so prospect or a 1st round pick for a 34 year old or older guy. We get to value people however we want. When we differ on one player its whatever. When a GM continuously values his players more then what you offer its annoying. He wanted me to send my 1st and more for molinaro who was hitting under .200 at the time lol. The Swan trade I did with him was aight but this offer...hell no. No reason to move a top 10 pick now for someone that clearly has regressed quite a bit. |
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Post by tadontask on Aug 22, 2018 14:39:08 GMT -5
Publicly posting trade talks and offers from other teams as examples of how terrible the offers are seems like a pretty quick way to lose multiple potential trading partners.
It's human nature to overvalue your own players. We all do it. If you don't like the offer, either counter or move on.
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Aug 22, 2018 14:44:28 GMT -5
We get to value people however we want. When we differ on one player its whatever. When a GM continuously values his players more then what you offer its annoying. Maybe you should offer good players. Or maybe realize you always need to win your deals and therefore you arent worth the effort of trade talks. |
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Post by Sha-Le Unique on Aug 22, 2018 14:55:33 GMT -5
Publicly posting trade talks and offers from other teams as examples of how terrible the offers are seems like a pretty quick way to lose multiple potential trading partners. It's human nature to overvalue your own players. We all do it. If you don't like the offer, either counter or move on. Mark and I already weren't on the best of terms so if he doesn't wanna hit me up anymore that's fine. Not even a light issue. |
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Aug 22, 2018 14:58:09 GMT -5
Mark has some detractors. I didnt invent this.
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Post by Sha-Le Unique on Aug 22, 2018 14:58:23 GMT -5
If I'm publicly posting a bad offer from anyone, it means 2 things: that it was not a good offer and that you're not one of my closer friends that id always refrain from calling out.
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Aug 22, 2018 17:47:10 GMT -5
I dont feel like i send historically bad offers. I send offers that i feel suit me and hopefully the other team. I can deal with nos. I just think some gms habitiually like to say no. Its annoying.
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Post by Reddington on Aug 22, 2018 18:59:06 GMT -5
I dont feel like i send historically bad offers. I send offers that i feel suit me and hopefully the other team. I can deal with nos. I just think some gms habitiually like to say no. Its annoying. I concur... That said some GMs prol think I'm a pushover and others think I'm an ass.... Try to be good when doing trades, but never know what others think. |
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bigmark
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Chicago White Sox
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Post by bigmark on Aug 22, 2018 19:06:55 GMT -5
We get to value people however we want. When we differ on one player its whatever. When a GM continuously values his players more then what you offer its annoying. He wanted me to send my 1st and more for molinaro who was hitting under .200 at the time lol. The Swan trade I did with him was aight but this offer...hell no. No reason to move a top 10 pick now for someone that clearly has regressed quite a bit. How's Molinaro hitting now that he's out of my pitchers park?..... oh ya over .300 As for you moaning about our trade talks or anyone else. Thank God I could care less about someone's online opinion. Especially someone who has never won anything and can only pull off any sort of good team when he tanks on purpose for 10 years. |
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Darryl
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Post by Darryl on Aug 22, 2018 19:08:52 GMT -5
Mark and Matt win titles here think they have the trade thing down.
But hey enjoy your internet life points.
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bigmark
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Post by bigmark on Aug 22, 2018 19:11:59 GMT -5
Mark has some detractors. I didnt invent this. Lmao. You call me out cause I won't give away players for your bad offers. And your offers were bad. I over value but I come in high always in hopes of counter offers. You're offers were always garbage. You have no system what so ever and I politely told you this on multiple occasions....m yet you kept offering crappy players over and over...shocking that I kept turning them down. And a league full of 30 guys who i barely know through online that ive been in since season 1. And we all don't get along? Again shocked.... |
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