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Post by Matt on Jul 27, 2023 11:12:41 GMT -5
Jay Bruce is NOT a brilliant hitter. He falls LITERALLY within the middle range of Good. Jon Jay, not Jay Bruce |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 27, 2023 11:13:19 GMT -5
.286 is the baseline good. .255 being average. Meaning by that Scale brilliant should be .307 MINIMUM
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 27, 2023 11:16:05 GMT -5
Jay Bruce is NOT a brilliant hitter. He falls LITERALLY within the middle range of Good. Jon Jay, not Jay Bruce I've mixed up their names for 15 years lol |
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dougiejays
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Post by dougiejays on Jul 27, 2023 11:36:58 GMT -5
Yeah at this point just wake me up when shit is sorted lol
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Jul 27, 2023 11:51:18 GMT -5
more like the gripes are being constantly rebutted with personal attacks and otherwise being ignored Agreed. Was going to ask about a few other things, but when people have asked for the charts to save time and get nothing, it's whatever. |
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Post by Spencer on Jul 27, 2023 13:41:50 GMT -5
Gripes should be more organized moving forward.
Can we please get the talent charts as a link at the top of the forum?
If we want gripes we need to have access to the criteria.
Jay is gonna stay brilliant in hits. Murphy too. So i think we should move on to other players.
Remember, gripes mean theyll be considered ,not, theyll do whatever you say.
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Post by Spencer on Jul 27, 2023 13:42:49 GMT -5
Also i believe lots of the gripes posted are gonna be changed but Chris and Brian have been busy so they havent had a chance to edit.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 27, 2023 13:47:24 GMT -5
Gripes should be more organized moving forward. Can we please get the talent charts as a link at the top of the forum? If we want gripes we need to have access to the criteria. Jay is gonna stay brilliant in hits. Murphy too. So i think we should move on to other players. Remember, gripes mean theyll be considered ,not, theyll do whatever you say. Why is jay staying Brilliant? There's no statistical justification. |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 27, 2023 13:49:57 GMT -5
Gripes should be more organized moving forward. Can we please get the talent charts as a link at the top of the forum? If we want gripes we need to have access to the criteria. Jay is gonna stay brilliant in hits. Murphy too. So i think we should move on to other players. Remember, gripes mean theyll be considered ,not, theyll do whatever you say. considered doesn't mean ignored when stats say they shouldn't have it. |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 27, 2023 13:52:42 GMT -5
Silence from you when a .299 hitter with a peak .309 is denied, but you're all for giving a .295 peak hitter the Brilliant. It's really telling how biased you are at this point.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 27, 2023 13:54:30 GMT -5
Can't wait for Xander to get denied when he's a better hitter than Jon Jay
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Post by Reddington on Jul 27, 2023 14:45:26 GMT -5
Also i believe lots of the gripes posted are gonna be changed but Chris and Brian have been busy so they havent had a chance to edit. I've argued my point of view on a couple, but unless necessary, I'm not making the call on the gripes. I've always preferred that to be a Chris Domain only. I've used some posts here to cause me to look at why x is y, and that has found a couple bugs. Beyond that just sitting back smh at some posts, because water is wet. |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 27, 2023 14:46:52 GMT -5
Also i believe lots of the gripes posted are gonna be changed but Chris and Brian have been busy so they havent had a chance to edit. I've argued my point of view on a couple, but unless necessary, I'm not making the call on the gripes. I've always preferred that to be a Chris Domain only. I've used some posts here to cause me to look at why x is y, and that has found a couple bugs. Beyond that just sitting back smh at some posts, because water is wet. you still have provided zero evidence as to why Jon Jay is a brilliant hitter, while others have provided plenty of evidence why not. |
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Post by jahallstar on Jul 27, 2023 14:52:55 GMT -5
I've argued my point of view on a couple, but unless necessary, I'm not making the call on the gripes. I've always preferred that to be a Chris Domain only. I've used some posts here to cause me to look at why x is y, and that has found a couple bugs. Beyond that just sitting back smh at some posts, because water is wet. you still have provided zero evidence as to why Jon Jay is a brilliant hitter, while others have provided plenty of evidence why not. Because they feel like keeping it there. Who cares. He will be in the draft file and people can choose where to take him based on the final draft file. This IS NOT about being perfect. It is about being somewhat realistic. If a star busts here and there or a scrub blows up......that makes stuff interesting. |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 27, 2023 14:54:03 GMT -5
you still have provided zero evidence as to why Jon Jay is a brilliant hitter, while others have provided plenty of evidence why not. Because they feel like keeping it there. Who cares. He will be in the draft file and people can choose where to take him based on the final draft file. This IS NOT about being perfect. It is about being somewhat realistic. If a star busts here and there or a scrub blows up......that makes stuff interesting. I care. This is about consistency, which multiple people who claim to care about have let go out the window the last few years and it's just been joked about. |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 27, 2023 14:59:49 GMT -5
a .283 career hitter with a peak of .295 is not brilliant. It's simple as that. Yet simple evidence is ignored.
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Post by jahallstar on Jul 27, 2023 15:07:10 GMT -5
a .283 career hitter with a peak of .295 is not brilliant. It's simple as that. Yet simple evidence is ignored. You got the same answer numerous times though. You posted 69 times in this thread and most of them are about the same thing. Other gripes are probably going to be missed because of that. They said no. Chris is the final say. Is what it is. |
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Jul 27, 2023 15:07:15 GMT -5
I'd have kept my 1st round pick if I'd have known Jay would be a brilliant hitter
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jahallstar
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Post by jahallstar on Jul 27, 2023 15:09:16 GMT -5
Jay kinda sucks otherwise. Not like he's this great prospect.
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jul 27, 2023 15:09:47 GMT -5
PP# 6,094,534
pretty sure I posted that during a conversation with Chris and a couple other GMs Chris decided the Bril stays. wasn't my decision. End of story. But sure lets keep beating the dead horse, and filling the thread with more posts about the same thing.
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jul 27, 2023 15:11:21 GMT -5
and yeah, been pretty busy. had about an hour time to come answer the same thing again, while trying to do other things
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jul 27, 2023 15:19:27 GMT -5
I'd have kept my 1st round pick if I'd have known Jay would be a brilliant hitter next week or the week after I should have what the top of next draft class will look like for hitters and batters posted so people can make informed decisions / pre gripe. It wont be interactive, and it might change a little as I make the program more robust, but it should give a decent baseline of what people should expect. |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 27, 2023 15:52:28 GMT -5
a .283 career hitter with a peak of .295 is not brilliant. It's simple as that. Yet simple evidence is ignored. You got the same answer numerous times though. You posted 69 times in this thread and most of them are about the same thing. Other gripes are probably going to be missed because of that. They said no. Chris is the final say. Is what it is. Where did chris say it? I don't see it. |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 27, 2023 15:55:30 GMT -5
how was he placed at brilliant in the first place, certainly not the spreadsheet that has been used.
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jul 27, 2023 15:55:45 GMT -5
yes I made up that I was talking to chris and thier brilliant stay
cause I'm just a cheater
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