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Post by Dale on Dec 1, 2023 14:12:41 GMT -5
For those of you who are more knowledgeable about this game than I, here is a question. Are ratings under Talents coded with a ceiling. For example, it seems that Good Talents seldom develop past 6. Are individual players coded differently, or is it a random development process similar to Player Development? In other words, why do a very few Good talents develop to 7 or sometimes 8, but most get stuck at 6? Something to ponder as I binge watch Ray Donovan on a rainy WV day.
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Post by dougiejays on Dec 1, 2023 14:47:48 GMT -5
I think 8s are guys who used to be B but lost it? As for 6 vs 7 it seems to be mostly random but could have to do with how developed player is elsewhere.
Def could be wrong…just my best guess
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Post by Bish on Dec 1, 2023 15:33:17 GMT -5
I think 8s are guys who used to be B but lost it? As for 6 vs 7 it seems to be mostly random but could have to do with how developed player is elsewhere. Def could be wrong…just my best guess Victo on cubs never had brill hits but has gotten to an 8 overall but he’s gotta be one of the v few to do it |
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Post by Dale on Dec 1, 2023 15:55:27 GMT -5
Same for Catalanotto in Cleveland…7 & 8 with Good hits
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Dec 1, 2023 16:02:11 GMT -5
There are ways to influence in spring training but it really feels like a player id gives a guy most of his innate hidden ratings
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Dec 1, 2023 16:02:53 GMT -5
Two guys rated exactly the same can have very different careers
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Post by bigmark on Dec 1, 2023 16:07:13 GMT -5
You can get a good up to 8 with luck or using spring training but a lot of times itll go back down.
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Post by Dale on Dec 1, 2023 16:19:53 GMT -5
You can get a good up to 8 with luck or using spring training but a lot of times itll go back down. What is the luck? Rare random generation or encoded ability |
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Post by dougiejays on Dec 1, 2023 16:29:28 GMT -5
You can get a good up to 8 with luck or using spring training but a lot of times itll go back down. What is the luck? Rare random generation or encoded ability The way it’s been explained to me is that it’s actually a 1-100 scale and you’re only seeing the rounded number. So a 6 could be anything from 56-65, a 7 could be anything from 66-75, etc. |
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Post by Dale on Dec 1, 2023 16:51:03 GMT -5
What is the luck? Rare random generation or encoded ability The way it’s been explained to me is that it’s actually a 1-100 scale and you’re only seeing the rounded number. So a 6 could be anything from 56-65, a 7 could be anything from 66-75, etc. I get that, but what causes a number to increase from 65 to 66? |
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Post by bigmark on Dec 1, 2023 17:18:38 GMT -5
The way it’s been explained to me is that it’s actually a 1-100 scale and you’re only seeing the rounded number. So a 6 could be anything from 56-65, a 7 could be anything from 66-75, etc. I get that, but what causes a number to increase from 65 to 66? luck or randomness tbh. ootp6 and 7 changed from the 1 to 10 to the 1 to 100 format back in the day so you clearly knew a players ratings. |
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Post by Reddington on Dec 1, 2023 17:37:05 GMT -5
The way it’s been explained to me is that it’s actually a 1-100 scale and you’re only seeing the rounded number. So a 6 could be anything from 56-65, a 7 could be anything from 66-75, etc. I get that, but what causes a number to increase from 65 to 66? it's all based on a scall and each number is in a range, like others have said behind the scene ints really a 1-100 scalle so like battin .300 is an 8 and batting .325 is an 8 but hidden from you is that one person is actually supposed to hit 325 vs one that can hit 300. as for what causes it to go up or down, just rng in the game for hitting good covers hi 5 to the possibility of a very low 8, bril in the game is supposedly hitting .320+? something like that. |
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Post by Dale on Dec 1, 2023 17:56:41 GMT -5
I get that, but what causes a number to increase from 65 to 66? it's all based on a scall and each number is in a range, like others have said behind the scene ints really a 1-100 scalle so like battin .300 is an 8 and batting .325 is an 8 but hidden from you is that one person is actually supposed to hit 325 vs one that can hit 300. as for what causes it to go up or down, just rng in the game for hitting good covers hi 5 to the possibility of a very low 8, bril in the game is supposedly hitting .320+? something like that. That makes sense |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Dec 1, 2023 18:46:29 GMT -5
I get that, but what causes a number to increase from 65 to 66? luck or randomness tbh. ootp6 and 7 changed from the 1 to 10 to the 1 to 100 format back in the day so you clearly knew a players ratings. "Clearly knew" Only if you got in the league at the gtound floor and sniped a good scout you never let leave immediately |
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Post by bub6708 on Dec 1, 2023 19:42:56 GMT -5
I get that, but what causes a number to increase from 65 to 66? luck or randomness tbh. ootp6 and 7 changed from the 1 to 10 to the 1 to 100 format back in the day so you clearly knew a players ratings. Probably 7. I know you can change v6 to 1-10. |
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Post by CSCommish on Dec 1, 2023 21:08:46 GMT -5
what Brian said.
The potential ratings usually means what the ceiling of the player will be. Poor will usually top out at 1-3, Fair will top out at 2-4, Average will top out at 4-6, Good will top out at 6-8, and Brilliant will top out at 8-10, and in rare cases, 11 for batters' walks, and you will usually see 12-14 for batters' homers and pitchers' strikeouts.
The batters' walks rating is probably the easiest to visualize. Whatever their rating number is, multiply by 11-12 and that's how many walks they are expected to get each season. That would mean, to dougie's point, that an 8 could be anywhere from 90 to 101. It's also a combination of the range of ratings of all players and league wide modifiers.
The OOTP5 chart at the top (http://www.hoffbl.com/ratingschart.jpg) shows where the thresholds are.
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Post by Dale on Dec 1, 2023 21:43:44 GMT -5
what Brian said. The potential ratings usually means what the ceiling of the player will be. Poor will usually top out at 1-3, Fair will top out at 2-4, Average will top out at 4-6, Good will top out at 6-8, and Brilliant will top out at 8-10, and in rare cases, 11 for batters' walks, and you will usually see 12-14 for batters' homers and pitchers' strikeouts. The batters' walks rating is probably the easiest to visualize. Whatever their rating number is, multiply by 11-12 and that's how many walks they are expected to get each season. That would mean, to dougie's point, that an 8 could be anywhere from 90 to 101. It's also a combination of the range of ratings of all players and league wide modifiers. The OOTP5 chart at the top (http://www.hoffbl.com/ratingschart.jpg) shows where the thresholds are. Thank you |
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