Franchise Player Reservations - DRAFT

[CSCommish]

Oct 19, 2013 17:47:07 GMT -5 soonerfantu said:

The points stay with the teams, correct? So when some of these owners start taking over expansion teams, they won't take those points with them?

Also, if we have questions about how players might be rated, is that something we can run by you? Out of curiosity, I'd be curious to know how differently Koufax and Drysdale might be rated?

Points are assigned to the team, not the proboard member. Expansion teams will be assigned a certain number of points that I deem appropriate.

I can estimate the ratings for you if you like, but they won't be exact. I won't put too much effort into it because I will do all that gripe work for each draft.

[soonerfantu]

Can you maybe give us the criteria you will use? I think in our discussions, we said some of these players will be geared more towards their "great" years (assuming they had more than one, or a few), and not so much on their career numbers. I'd be curious what you would expect Koufax to look like, given that he has a decent split in his really good years, and some other years.

[K.]

Oct 19, 2013 17:58:57 GMT -5 soonerfantu said:

I'd be curious what you would expect Koufax to look like, given that he has a decent split in his really good years, and some other years.

Perhaps big talents but low stating ratings, so he needs time to grow into them?

[CSCommish]

Oct 19, 2013 17:58:57 GMT -5 soonerfantu said:

Can you maybe give us the criteria you will use? I think in our discussions, we said some of these players will be geared more towards their "great" years (assuming they had more than one, or a few), and not so much on their career numbers. I'd be curious what you would expect Koufax to look like, given that he has a decent split in his really good years, and some other years.

They're mainly based on career stats, and if they are on the fringe of the next talent level, I look at their best years and how often they passed a certain threshold.

If you asked me to do the 5 talents for Koufax, it'd probably be:

H/2B/HR/BB/K ==> B/G/G/G/B ... although I might boost his HR to B

[soonerfantu]

I'd probably make him B's across the board, but I'm biased.

[CSCommish]

Hah!

[Spencer]

I want Marichal and McCovey. Take all 200 points and put them in AAA for me.

[Boston Red Sox]

Wade Boggs at B/B/A/A/B/B looks really nice now. I might take him and a few others instead of Clemens/Yaz.

[Boston Red Sox]

Meh he'd probably be B/B/A/F/B/B to be honest.

[Matt]

Thought on the rewards: Maybe up the back end number of points? Instead of 5/5/5 maybe 5/7/10? 5/10/15? Gives us more incentive to keep a guy long term and maybe help replenish more points to pick up the next guy once we're through the first one.

[bigmark]

So does it matter when we take the guys? like could we do 2 years in a row if we really wanted to? Also can I ask what the numbers would look like on a few of the guys that interest me in this system.... Fisk, Thomas, Ventura, Mcdowell and Baines is who i'm choosing from.

[K.]

Oct 20, 2013 2:48:26 GMT -5 bigmark said:

So does it matter when we take the guys? like could we do 2 years in a row if we really wanted to? Also can I ask what the numbers would look like on a few of the guys that interest me in this system.... Fisk, Thomas, Ventura, Mcdowell and Baines is who i'm choosing from.

You can do two in consecutive seasons but there's a penalty:

Reservation Fee
- 5 FPR points per formal reservation
- 15 FPR point penalty for unannounced reservation
- 15 FPR point penalty for cancelled reservation
- 15 FPR point penalty for reserving a player after already reserving another within the prior 5 seasons
(all non-refundable)

[CSCommish]

Oct 20, 2013 2:48:26 GMT -5 bigmark said:

So does it matter when we take the guys? like could we do 2 years in a row if we really wanted to? Also can I ask what the numbers would look like on a few of the guys that interest me in this system.... Fisk, Thomas, Ventura, Mcdowell and Baines is who i'm choosing from.

Fisk: 7.3 + 7.0 + 5.9 + 4.9 + 4.3 = 29.4 * 2 = 58.8 = 59
Thomas: 7.3 + 7.0 + 6.9 + 6.3 + 6.2 = 33.7 * 2 = 67.4 = 67
Ventura: 6.7 + 6.0 + 5.8 + 5.3 + 5.3 = 29.1 * 2 = 58.2 = 58
McDowell: 5.3 + 4.3 + 4.3 + 4.1 + 3.8 = 21.8 * 2 = 43.6 = 44
Baines: 4.3 + 3.4 + 2.8 + 2.8 + 2.8 = 16.1 * 2 = 32.2 = 32

That's not including the reservation fee nor the draft day jump fee.

And it looks like a couple of them are from the late 80s, so if you pick any of them within a 5 year time-frame, you'd be paying a penalty fee too.

[CSCommish]

Oct 20, 2013 0:11:02 GMT -5 Matt said:

Thought on the rewards: Maybe up the back end number of points? Instead of 5/5/5 maybe 5/7/10? 5/10/15? Gives us more incentive to keep a guy long term and maybe help replenish more points to pick up the next guy once we're through the first one.

Will consider it.

[CSCommish]

I'm thinking about not doing the penalty fees for unannounced and cancelled. I have a feeling you guys would rather wait until you actually SEE the ratings, which wouldn't be until days before the draft. There will still be a reservation fee and a 5-year window penalty fee...

[soonerfantu]

I like that idea. It's just really hard to guess what guys will look like.

[bigmark]

Agreed.....also the 5 year span penalty makes sense but it kind of hurts the teams that will come later down the road that dont have that many years to choose from like the dbacks, rays, etc

[K.]

Oct 20, 2013 13:28:54 GMT -5 bigmark said:

Agreed.....also the 5 year span penalty makes sense but it kind of hurts the teams that will come later down the road that dont have that many years to choose from like the dbacks, rays, etc

A valid point.

[oreng]

this makes my head hurt. can I get carlton and Schmidt?

[K.]

Let's give this a shot:

Carlton: 12,1 - 10,2 - 6,8 - 5,9 - 5,5: 40,5 * 2 = 81
Schmidt: 9,7 - 8,9 - 8,8 - 7,9 - 7,9: 43,2 * 2 = 86

No penalty for them being to close in time, 5 points reservation fee each. That comes to 177 in total. Only unknown factor is the draft day jump cost. You have 23 for 2 drafts, so it depends on how good you'll be at those times. But it seems doable if you're not a contender both times.

[oreng]

what do those commas mean? silly Europeans thanks K. not sure if I understand what "not a contender" means

[Matt]

Oct 20, 2013 16:39:16 GMT -5 oreng said:

not sure if I understand what "not a contender" means

Part of the cost is jumping draft picks.  If you want the top prospect and you don't have the #1 pick, you've got to pay the difference in where your pick is and the #1 pick.

[bigmark]

I also dont think teams should lose all picks...1st and maybe 2nd tops...... depending on how deep our drafts are...the minors are bare enough as is and its not like anyone amazing sneaks through that often passed the 3rd round

[Ashes]

I think I'll just let it play out.

[Deleted]

Since I couldn't post in the constitution area, can you explain this part a little better?

Teams not participating in reserving players during the draft in question will be compensated Reward points, depending on the number of players reserved and teams' draft slot:

1 player(s) Reserved: #1 = 25, #2 = 20, #3 = 15 Reward points
2 player(s) Reserved: #1 = 30, #2 = 25, #3 = 20, #4 = 15 Reward points
3 player(s) Reserved: #1 = 35, #2 = 30, #3 = 25, #4 = 20, #5 = 15 Reward points
(and so on and so forth)

I'm assuming it has to do with people moving in front of a non participating team in the draft? Just a little further explanation would be helpful. Thx.