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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 22:06:52 GMT -5
I didn't get a list in because I was making my pick just like i had the first 2 rounds in a timely manner. I was around all day checking every 30-45 minutes. There were 11 picks before me. And just like that 15 go all in a row without even getting a chance? And my response was like 2 mins after it happened, so it's obvious I was watching. I don't see how it was my fault the picks were not kept up prior to mine if I had missed a time slot in a previous round and had to be auto's I'd be a bit more understanding, but I had done nothing but get mine in pretty quickly.
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Post by soonerfantu on May 7, 2016 22:18:01 GMT -5
What does "in a timely manner" mean? I don't recall exactly, but I'm pretty sure you posted your 1st and 2nd round picks DURING your allotted time, correct? Today was a different scenario, b/c your pick time had expired.
That said, I'm guessing you don't know exactly how we run the draft around here. Or, should I say, how I run it. Had I seen you online, I would probably would have reached out given that a) you are new to the league and this is your first draft, b) we were about 10+ picks behind, and c) your time had only expired by about 30-45 minutes if I remember correctly. But guess what? I'm pretty sure you are on invisible mode for whatever reason, so I can't see if you are online or not.
I also posted this at the beginning of the draft:
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 22:35:52 GMT -5
Ok...my "time had expired"...how could I have made a pick when there were still 11 picks to be made before mine? Do I just to get to pick at my time even though there were still 11 to be made? I get priority pick on the players and then the 11 before me get to choose from what's left after I do? Pretty sure both of my previous picks were made within 20 minutes.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 22:43:26 GMT -5
If someone can explain how my time had expired before the draft even reached my pick I'm all ears. That's just asinine. I would have to choose from a list of players that's not even showing who's actually available. 11 mystery men were yet to be made known.
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Post by dougiejays on May 7, 2016 23:51:02 GMT -5
Did my 3rd rounder get traded by me or previous owner?
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Post by RoyalsGM on May 7, 2016 23:52:29 GMT -5
If someone can explain how my time had expired before the draft even reached my pick I'm all ears. That's just asinine. I would have to choose from a list of players that's not even showing who's actually available. 11 mystery men were yet to be made known. Just make a 12-player list...that's not too much to ask, right? Perhaps we should just submit 72-player lists before the draft begins. <sarcasm font> |
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Post by RoyalsGM on May 7, 2016 23:55:35 GMT -5
To solve this, I don't think mods should schedule draft times when they are not going to be able to actually moderate the draft. My two cents. This is still the most simple solution. |
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Post by Sha-Le Unique on May 8, 2016 1:00:27 GMT -5
There should be more draft mods. It's tough for 2 people to do. There should be 3 mods in my opinion.
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Post by Sha-Le Unique on May 8, 2016 1:01:45 GMT -5
And to the guys that were complaining about not being able to pick during the scheduled time slot, I understand how you all feel, but when it comes down to whether or not to make a list, better safe than sorry, right? That's the way I'd look at it.
I simply missed my time slots and didn't send any lists, so I have no room to complain at all if I even wanted to.
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Post by bigmark on May 8, 2016 3:07:53 GMT -5
Did my 3rd rounder get traded by me or previous owner? previous owner ..its how you had maury wills on your team |
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Post by soonerfantu on May 8, 2016 7:57:20 GMT -5
If someone can explain how my time had expired before the draft even reached my pick I'm all ears. That's just asinine. I would have to choose from a list of players that's not even showing who's actually available. 11 mystery men were yet to be made known. You send a list. Period. Your pick is due at a certain time. If the draft is up to date, which it usually is, you post your pick. If the draft is not up to date (surely nobody expects me and Chris to be able to be logged in every hour between 8am and midnight for four straight days), then you send a list. Yes, being behind as much as we were makes a list difficult. But Washington was able to send in a 12-15 man list, and he is one of our least active owners. The draft is almost never that far behind. But it happened. You should have sent a list, and if you didn't want to do that, at the least, as I asked for in my post at the beginning of the draft, you should have sent me a PM saying you knew your pick was past due, you didn't want to send what, an 11 man list I think it would have been, and given me a way to contact you (text, or that you'd get a notice if I PM'd you or something). Just curious, what is the alternative? Change draft times for EVERYBODY if I fall a pick or two behind? That is stupid, illogical, and not logistically possible. You want to be upset with somebody, be upset the owners that consistently "missed" making their picks in the draft, that created what was probably a record setting number of auto's, which always throws the timing of the draft off. |
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Post by soonerfantu on May 8, 2016 8:00:52 GMT -5
To solve this, I don't think mods should schedule draft times when they are not going to be able to actually moderate the draft. My two cents. This is still the most simple solution. So you can always plan your days out in advance? I don't always know when I'm going to have a lot of time to run the draft, when I'm going to have a little time, and when I'm going to have no time. So this suggestion really doesn't work, and is pretty silly considering this is probably the first or second time in what, about 51 rounds of drafts in this league that the draft has fallen that far behind. It's a rare occurrence. That didn't even affect you, or really anybody outside of Josh, at all. YOU sent what, a 3 man list I think? |
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Post by soonerfantu on May 8, 2016 8:03:04 GMT -5
There should be more draft mods. It's tough for 2 people to do. There should be 3 mods in my opinion. When you start having too many mods, they start getting in the way of each other. If Chris wants to let me appoint somebody to post auto's on days where I might not be around much (usually weekends), I'll start doing that. But adding another mod only slows the process as we are constantly checking with each other to see who is doing what, or we're posting stuff twice (at the same time). We've been down that road. The real "fix" is to start punishing drafters who simply never show up to draft or send lists, and refuse to simply send Chris or I a message saying they need to be on auto. |
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Post by soonerfantu on May 8, 2016 8:07:15 GMT -5
I agree, part of being a draft mod is posting the auto pick when the auto pick is due. I have been busy the last couple days too, so I will take the hit on this. I am willing to redo the last half of the 3rd round from Baltimore and on. We will restart at noon today. This is ridiculous considering it only affected one (SF), MAYBE two (CHA) teams. Everybody else was either on automatic auto (which you've done away with here in the redraft for whatever reason), or was able to send a list. But sure, redo the entire day of picks. I won't be around to day to run it, so it's on you today, Chris. |
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Post by CSCommish on May 8, 2016 8:08:46 GMT -5
that's fine, I did say "I will take the hit on this" ... just don't take it personally.
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Post by Matt on May 8, 2016 9:28:35 GMT -5
Chris giving you permission? I think Chris might be able to do that himself. That's funny. Someone is on a power kick.
But my point anyway, i thought the purpose of a moderator was to help keep the draft moving, not end up auto picking almost an entire round in a 20 minute time period?
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Post by soonerfantu on May 8, 2016 9:48:58 GMT -5
Chris giving you permission? I think Chris might be able to do that himself. That's funny. Someone is on a power kick. But my point anyway, i thought the purpose of a moderator was to help keep the draft moving, not end up auto picking almost an entire round in a 20 minute time period? Power kick? If I was on a power kick I wouldn't have asked for Chris' permission, I'd have just done it. Chris can't "do it himself" b/c he doesn't know when I may or may not be around. Only I would know that. You do realize I only auto'd TWO FUCKING picks that weren't on automatic auto's, right? So stop trying to portray this in an untruthful manner. Every one of those auto's were going to be auto'd no matter how the draft was ran yesterday. And that is why it, and the round before when so fast. Because the teams that missed prior picks are on automatic autos, and don't get a time limit. It's not rocket science, though it doesn't surprise me that you don't understand it. I weep for the kids you teach. I truly do. |
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Post by Matt on May 8, 2016 9:58:07 GMT -5
Chris giving you permission? I think Chris might be able to do that himself. That's funny. Someone is on a power kick. But my point anyway, i thought the purpose of a moderator was to help keep the draft moving, not end up auto picking almost an entire round in a 20 minute time period? Power kick? If I was on a power kick I wouldn't have asked for Chris' permission, I'd have just done it. Chris can't "do it himself" b/c he doesn't know when I may or may not be around. Only I would know that. You do realize I only auto'd TWO FUCKING picks that weren't on automatic auto's, right? So stop trying to portray this in an untruthful manner. Every one of those auto's were going to be auto'd no matter how the draft was ran yesterday. And that is why it, and the round before when so fast. Because the teams that missed prior picks are on automatic autos, and don't get a time limit. It's not rocket science, though it doesn't surprise me that you don't understand it. I weep for the kids you teach. I truly do. Aww, getting personal. Love it. I actually never saw the time schedule for the day before (when i was auto picked) because of work, but go find where I've complained about it? You won't. I was spending my Friday night with those jr high kids chaperoning a dance and had no idea my pick was even up. The only one from Friday that has a complaint is SD. He posted he was here to pick and you autoed him. Then today you go and post that all you have to do is let you know you're here to pick and you won't auto....irony much? I do believe Chris runs the league though and he can make whatever decisions he'd like...  |
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Post by soonerfantu on May 8, 2016 10:22:28 GMT -5
The only one from Friday that has a complaint is SD. He posted he was here to pick and you autoed him. Then today you go and post that all you have to do is let you know you're here to pick and you won't auto....irony much? I do believe Chris runs the league though and he can make whatever decisions he'd like... I didn't see SD complain. I saw him post what you said he posted, but that was a couple of hours before his pick got processed. By the time I was "autoing" him, he hadn't been online for a couple of hours and hadn't sent a list. He may even have posted that (that he would be around) an hour or before his pick would have been up. I don't remember for sure. But when I was processing his pick, which was marked for an automatic auto b/c he missed round 2, he wasn't around and I didn't have a list. That's an auto, right? I haven't seen anything to suggest he was upset with how that played out. He can, absolutely. And if I don't like how that decision would affect my ability to run the draft, I'm free to step down as draft mod too. For someone that invests as little time as you do in the league as far as volunteer positions, I find it funny you have such a strong opinion on this. I know mostly you are just being an a-hole, b/c that is what you in recent years, but still. Draft mod (and really most of the volunteer positions) is a pretty thankless job. There aren't many people in this league even capable of being a draft mod, b/c it requires a job that allows you to be in front of a computer for the better part of what, 3-4 days straight? If the league doesn't like how I run the draft, replace me. I really don't care. I know I do a good and fair job of running the draft. I won't apologize for having ONE day where I wasn't around much, especially when I posted before the draft began that that might be the case. |
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Post by CSCommish on May 8, 2016 10:57:27 GMT -5
Relax.
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Post by Matt on May 8, 2016 11:16:11 GMT -5
The only one from Friday that has a complaint is SD. He posted he was here to pick and you autoed him. Then today you go and post that all you have to do is let you know you're here to pick and you won't auto....irony much? I do believe Chris runs the league though and he can make whatever decisions he'd like... I didn't see SD complain. I saw him post what you said he posted, but that was a couple of hours before his pick got processed. By the time I was "autoing" him, he hadn't been online for a couple of hours and hadn't sent a list. He may even have posted that (that he would be around) an hour or before his pick would have been up. I don't remember for sure. But when I was processing his pick, which was marked for an automatic auto b/c he missed round 2, he wasn't around and I didn't have a list. That's an auto, right? I haven't seen anything to suggest he was upset with how that played out. He can, absolutely. And if I don't like how that decision would affect my ability to run the draft, I'm free to step down as draft mod too. For someone that invests as little time as you do in the league as far as volunteer positions, I find it funny you have such a strong opinion on this. I know mostly you are just being an a-hole, b/c that is what you in recent years, but still. Draft mod (and really most of the volunteer positions) is a pretty thankless job. There aren't many people in this league even capable of being a draft mod, b/c it requires a job that allows you to be in front of a computer for the better part of what, 3-4 days straight? If the league doesn't like how I run the draft, replace me. I really don't care. I know I do a good and fair job of running the draft. I won't apologize for having ONE day where I wasn't around much, especially when I posted before the draft began that that might be the case. So him saying he was here at his time period to pick doesn't matter? Oh wait, the guy in charge of moving the draft along wasn't here to have the draft where it should have been. Blame us...how about the guy in charge of the draft follows the schedule posted? Nah, easier to blame the rest of us to get on your schedule....that you admittedly don't even know yourself. Ah, there's the Jeremy we all know..."if I don't get my way, then maybe I won't do it" As far as my volunteer position, I've said before I know I suck at it. I don't have much free time, especially from October until May with teaching and coaching. I don't volunteer for much because of that. I know my schedule won't allow it. My goal is for this summer to get started on catching up with the HOF. I do want to do it, but I have a feeling that giving the kids a study hall in class to work on the HOF class might get me in a bit of trouble. But keep blaming everyone else (instead of being open for change) and keep telling us how good you are at auto picking (when plenty of options have been given, which you don't want to even listen to) and threatening to leave or not caring if you get replaced. I know, I know, you met me about 15 years ago and you know exactly how I am and what I do. |
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Post by CSCommish on May 8, 2016 11:30:16 GMT -5
I am a little disappointed Jeremy you said it was a thankless job, you get a bunch of points for it, whereas I get none.
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Post by Darryl on May 8, 2016 11:31:30 GMT -5
Pretty sure Chris meant everyone when he said "relax" as in let it go.
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Post by Danny Glover on May 8, 2016 11:33:34 GMT -5
Auto the remainder of California's picks please
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Post by soonerfantu on May 8, 2016 11:48:15 GMT -5
I am a little disappointed Jeremy you said it was a thankless job, you get a bunch of points for it, whereas I get none. I would have zero problems with you getting a set number of points at the beginning or end of each season for all you do. 20-25 sounds about right. Have at it. I know I get the points, and you know that I know I get the points, but I'm also 38 years old, and the "drama" that the draft seems to create isn't worth the 20 points. Everybody wants to get vocal about the 1-2% of the time the draft doesn't run as smoothly, and they forget about the 98-99% of the time where it does. And that isn't directed at you. I think you appreciate how I generally get through the draft. The rest of the league either has nothing to say, or bitches. |
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