Matt
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Post by Matt on Sept 12, 2018 20:05:41 GMT -5
This has been bothering me since I missed out on a couple of guys the years I rebuilt.
My proposition:
In order to reserve any player you must have at least your first round pick in the current draft to do so. It just doesn't make sense to me that you can trade away all your draft picks and still be able to jump up in the draft to reserve.
I know all rules were followed at the time and I know the purpose of franchise players is to get stars of specific teams there. But my thought is that if you want to reserve him, you can't trade picks in the current draft to get more assets and still be able to reserve one of the top guys.
Thoughts?
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Darryl
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Post by Darryl on Sept 12, 2018 20:16:37 GMT -5
Would you say your own first pick or A first pick is fine?
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Post by RoyalsGM on Sept 12, 2018 20:29:56 GMT -5
You might be able to get away with that once, but not twice--there's barely enough points to make two reservations without the jump fees. I was unable to reserve Saberhagen because I didn't have a top-10 draft pick (or any first and second rounder for that matter).
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Sept 12, 2018 20:52:46 GMT -5
Would you say your own first pick or A first pick is fine? A first comparable (or better) than where yours should be. |
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bigmark
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Post by bigmark on Sept 12, 2018 21:05:45 GMT -5
Agreed. you should have to have your 1st. who didnt?
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Sept 12, 2018 21:31:51 GMT -5
I missed out on Rickey and Wade due to 2 reservations in the same year.
I'll let you figure out which one it is.
Again, I realize that the rules were followed at the time.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Sept 12, 2018 21:55:33 GMT -5
I missed out on Rickey and Wade due to 2 reservations in the same year. I'll let you figure out which one it is. Again, I realize that the rules were followed at the time. And I passed on the ability to draft a second franchise player in order to do it. What's the advantage. |
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Post by Matt on Sept 12, 2018 22:29:18 GMT -5
I missed out on Rickey and Wade due to 2 reservations in the same year. I'll let you figure out which one it is. Again, I realize that the rules were followed at the time. And I passed on the ability to draft a second franchise player in order to do it. What's the advantage. You didn't have a first round pick and essentially picked ahead of me without one. Big deal? Probably not. But something I wanted to see what everyone else thought. |
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Sept 12, 2018 22:31:05 GMT -5
Edited to add informational poll
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Sept 12, 2018 22:32:53 GMT -5
And I passed on the ability to draft a second franchise player in order to do it. What's the advantage. You didn't have a first round pick and essentially picked ahead of me without one. Big deal? Probably not. But something I wanted to see what everyone else thought. I forfeited all 3 picks in the next draft. So...? |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Sept 12, 2018 22:33:15 GMT -5
It's not like I didn't miss out on a pick in order to reserve. Just think it's a non-issue the way it works.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Sept 12, 2018 22:34:11 GMT -5
The point of this feature is to let people have some of their team favorites. Trying to add more roadblocks to it is just fun-killing.
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Sept 12, 2018 22:37:07 GMT -5
Making sure you have a first round pick 1 year (that you know well ahead of time) is a roadblock?
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Sept 12, 2018 22:57:09 GMT -5
Making sure you have a first round pick 1 year (that you know well ahead of time) is a roadblock? I don't see the difference on missing out on your pick entirely the next year is all. |
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Post by Spencer on Sept 12, 2018 23:06:35 GMT -5
I cant see the vote but im ok with it needing to be your own 1st and 2nd forfeited.
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Post by CSCommish on Sept 13, 2018 6:14:40 GMT -5
Actually, break's case is a perfect example of a 1st rounder not being necessary because he ended up forfeiting all of the picks the following season plus the jump day fee was astronomical --- won't be able to use it again basically for reserving Boggs. In a sense, it opens up other players to other teams.
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Post by Matt on Sept 13, 2018 8:08:39 GMT -5
Actually, break's case is a perfect example of a 1st rounder not being necessary because he ended up forfeiting all of the picks the following season plus the jump day fee was astronomical --- won't be able to use it again basically for reserving Boggs. In a sense, it opens up other players to other teams. My only problem with that has to do with depth of draft classes. Sure, he forfeits his picks the next season, but what if the draft his reserved someone in had less "superstars." I can tell you that I'd rather have Boggs over whoever I took with the first pick in that draft (I think that one was Durham, maybe Horner).
I guess this is my problem with the next season (using a specific example, since I was centrally involved). He took Boggs (don't blame him at all) and lost nothing in that draft. Then only lost probably a mid to late round pick in the next draft.
I love everything about the Franchise player. Heck, I probably took the most advantage of it by winning the World Series and then getting Bob Gibson the next season. My only issue is having a current 1st round pick in order to use it.
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