Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jan 14, 2019 21:05:10 GMT -5
Tanking is one thing. Purposely playing a guy at a premium position like SS that has no business playing there? That's my complaint. btw no one complained while I played Jackson at 1b while I was teaching him the position (that he didn't hold) and now is an A fielder at the position
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jan 14, 2019 21:20:59 GMT -5
oh snap... you haven't the FRP to even get roger if you had the #2 pick. give him back to show should have him, since you are all high and mighty about playing the best you could have.
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jan 14, 2019 21:26:07 GMT -5
Some people claim to be virtuous however they fail to realize there is almost nothing that happens in this league that I don't see or don't know about. Not infallible, but the more noise, the more I will look on what I remember.
Break could have had 3 batters and 3 pitchers from FA for free the year he got roger but choose to keep his roster clear of players better than his even though they would have been at zero cost to him because it would have cost him roger. but now he is OMG this is a travesty... sad.... is it...Donald Jr?
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jan 14, 2019 21:30:55 GMT -5
Tanking is one thing. Purposely playing a guy at a premium position like SS that has no business playing there? That's my complaint. I played him there to get him AB's to hopefully get him HR's and went 4-3 for the 7 game series.... and ignored there were way better players in the open FA market that you could sign for MLC. I mean shit, this is rich. Had you actually made an attempt you would have had to reserve roger and not just got him with the first pick. give up your next two 1st and all further FP reservations as punishment or get of your soap box of unrightful indignation It's my choice to use internal options or spend 300k. It's not a choice to bench all of your good players to game the fpr system.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jan 14, 2019 21:31:51 GMT -5
What i did also has no bearing on if you're wrong
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jan 14, 2019 21:38:21 GMT -5
What i did also has no bearing on if you're wrong sure it does... if I'm wrong, so were you
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jan 14, 2019 21:39:26 GMT -5
same thing. 300K-1.2m omg break the bank(not) or win 20 more...
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jan 14, 2019 21:41:41 GMT -5
Why would i want to waste money to win more games when my team wasn't anywhere near ready to compete? 300k or not. My thing is a matter of subjective gming. You're just clearly cheating.
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jan 14, 2019 21:44:06 GMT -5
What i did also has no bearing on if you're wrong you gamed the fuckin system and you know it and now are trying to act like what you did was even remotely the same? what an fn joke. I will still be paying 90+ FRP on a guy that's base is 67 and you paid none for a guy that's base should be 107 even with the #2 pick in the draft. that's fucking rich
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Jan 14, 2019 21:45:25 GMT -5
The league really needs to have a productive discussion about what the definition of tanking is, what is acceptable and what is not, and what the potential penalties are. Preferably before 1985 starts. We had one a couple of seasons ago, but I don't think anything came of it other than if you're at .333 halfway through the season, you might be forced to sign the best available free agents. Everyone should be required to play their best players. Bottom line. If you wanna lose, trade your good players.
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jan 14, 2019 21:52:15 GMT -5
The league really needs to have a productive discussion about what the definition of tanking is, what is acceptable and what is not, and what the potential penalties are. Preferably before 1985 starts. We had one a couple of seasons ago, but I don't think anything came of it other than if you're at .333 halfway through the season, you might be forced to sign the best available free agents. Everyone should be required to play their best players. Bottom line. If you wanna lose, trade your good players. oh so if they do it the way you did it's OK, but if they do it another way it's bad. I played by the rules, and did so by far and in a better way that people that tanked for the number 1 when they were out of FPR's I mean if there is a travesty, THAT would be the travesty. I'm gonna loose a shit ton of picks, wtf did he loose for fielding a shit team he could have easily made better, and lost out on Roger?
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Jan 14, 2019 22:12:54 GMT -5
Everyone should be required to play their best players. Bottom line. If you wanna lose, trade your good players. oh so if they do it the way you did it's OK, but if they do it another way it's bad. I played by the rules, and did so by far and in a better way that people that tanked for the number 1 when they were out of FPR's I mean if there is a travesty, THAT would be the travesty. I'm gonna loose a shit ton of picks, wtf did he loose for fielding a shit team he could have easily made better, and lost out on Roger? You're not convincing me that not playing your best players to get a good player isnt cheating. I blew up my team 2 seasons too soon for Bonds. I made a choice. Its unfair to just sit better players to lose games.
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Jan 14, 2019 22:16:43 GMT -5
Tanking is one thing. Purposely playing a guy at a premium position like SS that has no business playing there? That's my complaint. btw no one complained while I played Jackson at 1b while I was teaching him the position (that he didn't hold) and now is an A fielder at the position Comparing playing SS to 1B? Not worth the conversation anymore.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jan 14, 2019 22:28:12 GMT -5
You're an idiot if you think not paying a 6/2/7 guy and starting a 6/1/4 instead is the same thing as benching an all brilliant pitcher for weeks
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Post by CSCommish on Jan 14, 2019 22:29:07 GMT -5
OK stop. Have to agree with Spencer here. I understand why you tanked and tanking is OK to a point (not less than .300 or .333 WPCT), but to sit players to tank is a little different.
I'll figure out penalty, but keep in mind it may be minimal since I did not penalize break/stool.
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Post by CSCommish on Jan 14, 2019 22:29:42 GMT -5
I'll adjust rule for next season.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jan 14, 2019 23:23:51 GMT -5
OK stop. Have to agree with Spencer here. I understand why you tanked and tanking is OK to a point (not less than .300 or .333 WPCT), but to sit players to tank is a little different. I'll figure out penalty, but keep in mind it may be minimal since I did not penalize break/stool. that's not true you forced us to sign players mid-season on a mid-season rule change. That's not no penalty...
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jan 14, 2019 23:31:48 GMT -5
It's also double shitty to try and use the fact that some teams try to use internal options as a foot in the door to cheating
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Post by CSCommish on Jan 14, 2019 23:39:38 GMT -5
Not sure what that means lol
Anyway, I've fixed Braves roster for this sim. Simming now.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jan 14, 2019 23:45:40 GMT -5
Not sure what that means lol Anyway, I've fixed Braves roster for this sim. Simming now. Foot in the door is a logical fallacy where you use a smaller infraction to justify a larger one
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jan 15, 2019 6:33:36 GMT -5
OK stop. Have to agree with Spencer here. I understand why you tanked and tanking is OK to a point (not less than .300 or .333 WPCT), but to sit players to tank is a little different. I'll figure out penalty, but keep in mind it may be minimal since I did not penalize break/stool. that's not true you forced us to sign players mid-season on a mid-season rule change. That's not no penalty... after how many seasons of sub 300 playing... just rich. boo hoo
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jan 15, 2019 6:34:11 GMT -5
It's also double shitty to try and use the fact that some teams try to use internal options as a foot in the door to cheating says the guy that got roger when cheating
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jan 15, 2019 7:21:42 GMT -5
It's also double shitty to try and use the fact that some teams try to use internal options as a foot in the door to cheating says the guy that got roger when cheating Didn't cheat you dumbass. One person bitched about me not using FA (not cheating to not sign FA dumbass) until a rule was made midseason that i adhered to. Multiple people have outright called what you did cheating in a single thread. Shut up while you're behind.
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jan 15, 2019 8:20:37 GMT -5
says the guy that got roger when cheating Didn't cheat you dumbass. One person bitched about me not using FA (not cheating to not sign FA dumbass) until a rule was made midseason that i adhered to. Multiple people have outright called what you did cheating in a single thread. Shut up while you're behind. either did I dumbass. nothing I did was against the rules. What you did was voted to be changed by a majority after you and stool had taken advantage of the same thing repeatedly, so apparently enough felt it was wrong too. No rule has been changed about what I've done, but I agreed to have the best lineup put into place when others complained about something at the end of the season that I have been openly saying I was going to do since the end of last season. Now you wanna cry even though you got your guy for FREE. smh why dont you quit while you're behind or give up rocket and tettlton
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Jan 15, 2019 8:26:38 GMT -5
The logic of the world today.....
"Even though this makes no sense at all, since there's no rule against it, I'm going to try it. Then it's someone else's problem when I do and someone calls me on it"
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