Reddington
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Atlanta Braves
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Post by Reddington on Sept 27, 2019 4:43:37 GMT -5
if yes the team winning in FA has to keep them for a season, or outright release them
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jahallstar
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Post by jahallstar on Sept 27, 2019 6:08:58 GMT -5
This is for the runoff in season fa signing?
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Reddington
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Atlanta Braves
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Post by Reddington on Sept 27, 2019 6:40:20 GMT -5
This is for the runoff in season fa signing? nah, this is for people that grab FA just to flip them during the freenzy, driving up salaries |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Sept 27, 2019 9:11:15 GMT -5
I think July 1st is perfectly acceptable
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Sept 27, 2019 10:04:06 GMT -5
I think July 1st is perfectly acceptable Agreed. Gives the middle ground teams a chance to sign a player then trade them if they aren't where they thought they were going to be. Gives the lower teams a chance to sign a guy and see if they can flip them for something helpful at the deadline. I know it's cost me a couple of guys I really wanted in FA, but that's part of the game. |
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jahallstar
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Baltimore Orioles
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Post by jahallstar on Sept 27, 2019 15:00:27 GMT -5
If they are overpriced why would you give assets to trade for them?
There have been a couple times in FA that I was bidding on guys and had my max and someone else paid more. They then a little while down the road asked if I was interested in trading for them. I said no they make to much, I would have just signed them if I wanted to pay more.
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Reddington
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Atlanta Braves
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Post by Reddington on Sept 27, 2019 15:53:21 GMT -5
If they are overpriced why would you give assets to trade for them? There have been a couple times in FA that I was bidding on guys and had my max and someone else paid more. They then a little while down the road asked if I was interested in trading for them. I said no they make to much, I would have just signed them if I wanted to pay more. as an example a couple seasons ago a guy had a ton of money and was rebuilding so he went after a great player paying more than anyone competing could afford and then traded him as soon as FA hit for draft picks. the other rebuilding teams didn't want him cause they were more interested in winning as few games as possible, which caused that player to sign for more than he would normally have been offered, skewing payroll. Since the team trading for him didn't have to worry about the payroll hit and causing their payroll to be higher than they were making at that point, they bypassed the restriction they would have faced in FA trying to sign him. |
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Reddington
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Atlanta Braves
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Post by Reddington on Sept 27, 2019 15:55:56 GMT -5
I think July 1st is perfectly acceptable Agreed. Gives the middle ground teams a chance to sign a player then trade them if they aren't where they thought they were going to be. Gives the lower teams a chance to sign a guy and see if they can flip them for something helpful at the deadline. I know it's cost me a couple of guys I really wanted in FA, but that's part of the game. I understand it, but it's also how people game the game. Since some have expressed dislike for that, I figured I'd at least offer a couple of the things that are done. |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Sept 27, 2019 16:00:25 GMT -5
It's not gaming the system to collect assets and flip them. That's standard operating procedure in sports.
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Sept 27, 2019 16:28:13 GMT -5
If they are overpriced why would you give assets to trade for them? There have been a couple times in FA that I was bidding on guys and had my max and someone else paid more. They then a little while down the road asked if I was interested in trading for them. I said no they make to much, I would have just signed them if I wanted to pay more. as an example a couple seasons ago a guy had a ton of money and was rebuilding so he went after a great player paying more than anyone competing could afford and then traded him as soon as FA hit for draft picks. the other rebuilding teams didn't want him cause they were more interested in winning as few games as possible, which caused that player to sign for more than he would normally have been offered, skewing payroll. Since the team trading for him didn't have to worry about the payroll hit and causing their payroll to be higher than they were making at that point, they bypassed the restriction they would have faced in FA trying to sign him. Any want Pete Obrien? |
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jahallstar
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Baltimore Orioles
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Post by jahallstar on Sept 27, 2019 16:41:15 GMT -5
That would be one of the guys that I bid up to what I thought he was worth. He went above that and I didn't want him.
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Sept 28, 2019 19:06:01 GMT -5
Im ok with the current standard.
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