Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jan 30, 2020 13:40:42 GMT -5
it's also pretty quick to look at ST files after importing them in to run ST
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stooolfan
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Post by stooolfan on Jan 30, 2020 13:44:53 GMT -5
if we change the rule, there should be a grandfather rule inplace
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Jan 30, 2020 13:47:11 GMT -5
if we change the rule, there should be a grandfather rule inplace The ones that are there are ok, but no more after the rule change. |
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Danchevy
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Post by Danchevy on Jan 30, 2020 13:55:28 GMT -5
If we change the rule it has to take place immediately. Can't allow a 5 year grandfather clause on players that are already in the league. That would just be an incentive for everyone to turn every MR possible into a starter before the clause ends.
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stooolfan
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Post by stooolfan on Jan 30, 2020 14:35:49 GMT -5
If we change the rule it has to take place immediately. Can't allow a 5 year grandfather clause on players that are already in the league. That would just be an incentive for everyone to turn every MR possible into a starter before the clause ends. Let me clarify, no reversing the pitchers already changed |
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Feb 4, 2020 22:00:27 GMT -5
If we change the rule it has to take place immediately. Can't allow a 5 year grandfather clause on players that are already in the league. That would just be an incentive for everyone to turn every MR possible into a starter before the clause ends. Let me clarify, no reversing the pitchers already changed other than maybe Nen...  |
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Feb 4, 2020 22:01:14 GMT -5
the more I think about it, I've come off the fence I was on, and allowing relievers to be made into stud starters shouldn't be allowed.
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Feb 4, 2020 22:06:35 GMT -5
the more I think about it, I've come off the fence I was on, and allowing relievers to be made into stud starters shouldn't be allowed. I think it would prevent any further inflation. I think it would allow for some great future closers to stay closers. I think its the right move. Maybe a 2 season grace period for current pitchers in the process |
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Feb 4, 2020 23:03:05 GMT -5
the more I think about it, I've come off the fence I was on, and allowing relievers to be made into stud starters shouldn't be allowed. I think it would prevent any further inflation. I think it would allow for some great future closers to stay closers. I think its the right move. Maybe a 2 season grace period for current pitchers in the process nah, it should be closed down now, there is no way assenmacher should be a SP |
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Feb 4, 2020 23:40:50 GMT -5
I think it would prevent any further inflation. I think it would allow for some great future closers to stay closers. I think its the right move. Maybe a 2 season grace period for current pitchers in the process nah, it should be closed down now, there is no way assenmacher should be a SP Fine with me. Lets go |
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greeme
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Post by greeme on Feb 5, 2020 15:10:42 GMT -5
it would be nice to have a ruling on this.
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Danchevy
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Post by Danchevy on Feb 5, 2020 15:20:14 GMT -5
Feel like it's pretty clear which way it's going to go.
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Post by CSCommish on Feb 5, 2020 16:40:57 GMT -5
I guess whether the rule already exists is irrelevant. The poll can be treated as whether we want to permit it at all going forward.
I was planning to attempt to make Brian Meyer a starter, but I guess that's out of the question if we implement it immediately.
I guess it shall be so. I will modify the rules such that conversion from reliever to starter, from this point forward, shall be prohibited.
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Feb 5, 2020 17:13:06 GMT -5
Does seem unfair to those teams that were in the process of converting someone.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 17:20:42 GMT -5
I would counter that it’s BEEN unfair to those of us who didn’t understand how it worked and thereby never took advantage of the rule
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Feb 5, 2020 17:24:47 GMT -5
I would counter that it’s BEEN unfair to those of us who didn’t understand how it worked and thereby never took advantage of the rule Ehhh. Should all GMs be required to announce any information that gives them an advantage? Should Brian need to share ball park and revenue data he discovered that is within the rules? Should I be required to share ST info that Ive discovered that is within the rules? It sucks you didnt know about it but is it our responsibility to make sure you do? It was in the rules. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2020 17:40:34 GMT -5
I would counter that it’s BEEN unfair to those of us who didn’t understand how it worked and thereby never took advantage of the rule Ehhh. Should all GMs be required to announce any information that gives them an advantage? Should Brian need to share ball park and revenue data he discovered that is within the rules? Should I be required to share ST info that Ive discovered that is within the rules? It sucks you didnt know about it but is it our responsibility to make sure you do? It was in the rules. I get it, but I would also counter that for the last number of seasons I've googled, searched OOTPdevelopments.com forums, etc trying to find something that I was missing in Spring Training that clearly a number of GM's in this league were taking advantage of. Some of it is time/effort, but if there are little glitches in the game that some GM's know about, and others don't, then there's a comment that "let's face it, some GM's don't care enough about winning", when I literally probably export as much if not more than anyone, then yeah, it's a little irritating. If I had the keys to the kingdom and kept winning I wouldn't want to share it either. I do appreciate that you reached out to me, and another GM has as well, but let's face it, not everyone was playing by, or, taking advantage of, the same rules, which is a lot of why we have a bunch of have's and a bunch of have nots. |
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Feb 5, 2020 18:12:28 GMT -5
Ive experimented in ST in solo leagues for years. Not sure that info is something I need to share with everyone.
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Feb 5, 2020 18:17:35 GMT -5
Ive experimented in ST in solo leagues for years. Not sure that info is something I need to share with everyone. you have more patience than I. No matter what machine I am on ST is slow like molasses running up hill in alaska during the winter |
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Feb 5, 2020 18:53:25 GMT -5
Ive experimented in ST in solo leagues for years. Not sure that info is something I need to share with everyone. you have more patience than I. No matter what machine I am on ST is slow like molasses running up hill in alaska during the winter Ive played so many solo leagues for shits and gigs. I always experiment with players. |
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