Reddington
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Atlanta Braves
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Post by Reddington on Jan 29, 2020 19:26:01 GMT -5
see the rollcall thread for more explanation
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Reddington
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Atlanta Braves
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Post by Reddington on Jan 29, 2020 19:28:31 GMT -5
dont be shy, cast yer vote
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redsgm
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Cincinnati Reds
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Post by redsgm on Jan 29, 2020 20:26:32 GMT -5
I vote yes with a MR duration of A. You can draft a MR with B or C and work 2 or 3 seasons to up his duration and then hopefully he becomes an SP. That shows that a GM purposefully took 3-5 seasons working to make that pitcher (maybe a 2nd rounder) into a great starter. Happens in big leagues because someone worked with that pitcher in ST.
IMO
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Post by Sha-Le Unique on Jan 29, 2020 20:43:55 GMT -5
Yeah if the MR duration is A, I'm cool with the rule, but if people don't want it, that's fine too. As long as everyone is on the same page, that's the important part imo.
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bub6708
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Tampa Bay Devil Rays
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Post by bub6708 on Jan 29, 2020 21:12:40 GMT -5
Why is this a poll?
It's in the rules already.
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Jan 29, 2020 21:19:45 GMT -5
Why is this a poll? It's in the rules already. There's been enough turnover, seeing what the league thoughts are now. |
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bub6708
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Post by bub6708 on Jan 29, 2020 21:33:19 GMT -5
There's been enough turnover, seeing what the league thoughts are now.
Apparently most are doing it regardless. I thought it was frowned upon.
I guess I can start to do it then.
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Jan 29, 2020 22:35:54 GMT -5
Based on the responsee here I feel like this poll should be more specific.
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dougiejays
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Toronto Blue Jays
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Post by dougiejays on Jan 29, 2020 23:20:56 GMT -5
Damn I had no idea about this. Just thought it was illegal like in HFTC
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Jan 29, 2020 23:29:55 GMT -5
Based on the responsee here I feel like this poll should be more specific. How? Pretty straightforward question... allow it or not? |
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bigmark
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Chicago White Sox
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Post by bigmark on Jan 29, 2020 23:42:19 GMT -5
No close the glitch
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bub6708
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Tampa Bay Devil Rays
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Post by bub6708 on Jan 29, 2020 23:44:52 GMT -5
Is there a penalty for guys who have used it already? |
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bigmark
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Chicago White Sox
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Post by bigmark on Jan 29, 2020 23:53:00 GMT -5
Is there a penalty for guys who have used it already?[/qpuote] Everyone who didn't use it should get 1 sp into mr 🤣 |
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Jan 30, 2020 0:05:11 GMT -5
Based on the responsee here I feel like this poll should be more specific. How? Pretty straightforward question... allow it or not? I feel like its straight forward too. But these responses make me wonder |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jan 30, 2020 8:16:49 GMT -5
I say no because it leads to bad inflation
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dgfred
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Oakland A's
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Post by dgfred on Jan 30, 2020 9:34:55 GMT -5
Embarrassed... but what do the rules say?
I thought like the major leagues anybody can pitch anywhere at anytime. Use a C or D duration guy as a starter might eventually wear out your bullpen anyway. It is confusing.
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Jan 30, 2020 9:41:29 GMT -5
This rule is specific to relievers with no starter duration. Some of the better closers and relievers can be transitioned to starters without actually having starter duration to start.
Ive used this tactic to my advantage because my main adversary at the time used it to his. It was legal and completely within the HOFFBL rules.
If the no vote wins it would essentially mean only players with starter duration whem created would be allowed to start.
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dgfred
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Post by dgfred on Jan 30, 2020 9:49:12 GMT -5
Oh, ok. Got ya. Thanks. I wasn't talking about no duration guys.
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bub6708
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Post by bub6708 on Jan 30, 2020 12:51:11 GMT -5
Per the rules..
Relief Pitchers must have an "A" rating at relief duration and be less than 30 years of age at the time of Spring Training in order to be trained as a Starter. Violation of this rule will result in the player's starter duration removed and relief duration reduced to "E".
It's already been addressed. Is this poll to outright ban it?
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Jan 30, 2020 12:58:41 GMT -5
Per the rules..
Relief Pitchers must have an "A" rating at relief duration and be less than 30 years of age at the time of Spring Training in order to be trained as a Starter. Violation of this rule will result in the player's starter duration removed and relief duration reduced to "E".
It's already been addressed. Is this poll to outright ban it?
Yes. It would be a reversal of this rule. |
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bub6708
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Post by bub6708 on Jan 30, 2020 13:01:20 GMT -5
Then what's the penalty if someone does it?
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Reddington
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Atlanta Braves
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Post by Reddington on Jan 30, 2020 13:05:11 GMT -5
Then what's the penalty if someone does it? reversal, made to E duration, minimum |
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bub6708
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Post by bub6708 on Jan 30, 2020 13:09:34 GMT -5
Then what's the penalty if someone does it? reversal, made to E duration, minimum Who's going to go through each roster and minors of every team?
Thanks for volunteering, Brian!
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Danchevy
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Post by Danchevy on Jan 30, 2020 13:23:43 GMT -5
reversal, made to E duration, minimum Who's going to go through each roster and minors of every team?
Thanks for volunteering, Brian!
You just have to look at post spring training development logs. It says if a pitcher learns starter duration. |
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bub6708
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Post by bub6708 on Jan 30, 2020 13:30:57 GMT -5
Good point!
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