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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 18:25:55 GMT -5
Then there’s a difference between Chris’ ratings and thee OOTP chart that’s posted, which also is leading to chronic player inflation. .287 is good on the chart. Not .280. Posada hit .287 once and over .287 once. In 17 years. In this league if u make him average someone will spend the necessary points to make him good regardless. But those points spent are points that can’t be spent on other players, hence working back to a state of ratings realism. Maybe so, but we're 46 yrs into him doing it this way  That said, I was kinda happy to see the last two draft classes were not as good as the previous years  We're not. I did a whole lot of the early draft classes and it was always pretty much right by the book unless there were extenuating circumstances. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 18:27:11 GMT -5
I believe the ratings chart was relaxed in an effort to make real life good MLB players good. Because of player inflation.
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Post by Reddington on Feb 3, 2020 18:27:29 GMT -5
oh as for Rondell's fielding, ootp only had him as a LF, and for his 15 seasons, 13 of them he played LF with 5 of them exclusively LF, and 8 CF with only 2 of them exclusively CF. OOTP had him with C range in LF, and that is the hardest thing to figure out based on stats, so I gave him D for CF but the full .989 fielding % his stats had listed.
If anyone has a suggestion how to calculate range other than if I see they have gold gloves, I would love the tip
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Post by Reddington on Feb 3, 2020 18:29:42 GMT -5
I believe the ratings chart was relaxed in an effort to make real life good MLB players good. Because of player inflation. could be, IDK. Just have the rating chart Chris game me a couple years ago (iirl not hoffbl seasons) back when I was trying to help without actually doing the draft class. |
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Post by Spencer on Feb 3, 2020 18:39:08 GMT -5
Lots of good points.
I think the peak years is where things kinda went sideways. Peak years without player increases would've been great. Otherwise peak years just inflate.
I don't care about inflation. Inflation isn't an issue because ratings are always relative. In a league where 6's are average you want 8's. In a league where 8's are average you want 10's. Its not complicated.
Im against lowering drafts now because they would hinder any team trying to rebuild.
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Post by Spencer on Feb 3, 2020 18:39:55 GMT -5
oh as for Rondell's fielding, ootp only had him as a LF, and for his 15 seasons, 13 of them he played LF with 5 of them exclusively LF, and 8 CF with only 2 of them exclusively CF. OOTP had him with C range in LF, and that is the hardest thing to figure out based on stats, so I gave him D for CF but the full .989 fielding % his stats had listed. If anyone has a suggestion how to calculate range other than if I see they have gold gloves, I would love the tip Range factor? |
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Post by Reddington on Feb 3, 2020 18:47:04 GMT -5
oh as for Rondell's fielding, ootp only had him as a LF, and for his 15 seasons, 13 of them he played LF with 5 of them exclusively LF, and 8 CF with only 2 of them exclusively CF. OOTP had him with C range in LF, and that is the hardest thing to figure out based on stats, so I gave him D for CF but the full .989 fielding % his stats had listed. If anyone has a suggestion how to calculate range other than if I see they have gold gloves, I would love the tip Range factor? well shit... OK so he has a better RF/9 at CF then LF - 2.5 vs 2.0 |
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Post by Reddington on Feb 3, 2020 18:48:57 GMT -5
Lots of good points. I think the peak years is where things kinda went sideways. Peak years without player increases would've been great. Otherwise peak years just inflate. I disagree, as why should a guy that batted .287 over a 5 years career be the same as chipper that batted .320 over 8 yrs and .303 over 19? |
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Post by Reddington on Feb 3, 2020 18:50:02 GMT -5
oh as for Rondell's fielding, ootp only had him as a LF, and for his 15 seasons, 13 of them he played LF with 5 of them exclusively LF, and 8 CF with only 2 of them exclusively CF. OOTP had him with C range in LF, and that is the hardest thing to figure out based on stats, so I gave him D for CF but the full .989 fielding % his stats had listed. If anyone has a suggestion how to calculate range other than if I see they have gold gloves, I would love the tip Range factor? so apparently if you hover, you can find out what the abbreviations for each column are on the stats page ... who knew |
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Post by Spencer on Feb 3, 2020 18:50:24 GMT -5
well shit... OK so he has a better RF/9 at CF then LF - 2.5 vs 2.0 IDK what a good RF is and what a bad RF is. 2.5 or 3 must be pretty good? Im guessing you just need to make it like 2.6+ is A. 2.0 to 2.5 is B. 1.6 to 1.9 C, etc. |
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Post by Spencer on Feb 3, 2020 18:51:25 GMT -5
Lots of good points. I think the peak years is where things kinda went sideways. Peak years without player increases would've been great. Otherwise peak years just inflate. I disagree, as why should a guy that batted .287 over 5 years be the same as chipper that batted .320 over 8 yrs and .303 over 19? I think 300 for a career should be brill. |
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Post by Reddington on Feb 3, 2020 18:51:40 GMT -5
well shit... OK so he has a better RF/9 at CF then LF - 2.5 vs 2.0 IDK what a good RF is and what a bad RF is. 2.5 or 3 must be pretty good? Im guessing you just need to make it like 2.6+ is A. 2.0 to 2.5 is B. 1.6 to 1.9 C, etc. yeah, no clue either. I guess I need to look up historically awesome players at their position and see what their RF's are and go from there |
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Post by Reddington on Feb 3, 2020 18:52:08 GMT -5
I disagree, as why should a guy that batted .287 over 5 years be the same as chipper that batted .320 over 8 yrs and .303 over 19? I think 300 for a career should be brill. works for me, but we need to lower bonds to just good then |
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Post by Spencer on Feb 3, 2020 19:01:36 GMT -5
I think 300 for a career should be brill. works for me, but we need to lower bonds to just good then Nah |
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Post by Sha-Le Unique on Feb 4, 2020 1:14:23 GMT -5
When I do LBB drafts, for range factor, I always compared a players' Range Factor/9 innings, compared to the league average at each position. If it's roughly the same as the league average, I give it a C and then if it's below or above, I'll use the scale accordingly.
As for outfield arm, I feel like 5-6 assists each season is more like a C arm and 10+ assists is an A arm. Catcher arm, I use 25-30% as like a C rating and obv anything 40+ is A.
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Post by CSCommish on Feb 4, 2020 7:45:02 GMT -5
I made a few adjustments, mainly to relievers, Posada, Greer and a couple other players.
Going forward, I think we'll need to tweak and make the chart our own, go somewhere the OOTP5 chart and Shale's LBB chart. I'll work on that this weekend.
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