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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jan 22, 2021 21:43:49 GMT -5
I've been talking to Chris about the possibility of instituting a rule 5 draft to spread older minor leaguers around to help the league stay more balanced. I suggested 3-5 protections every offseason, but obviously details can be worked out. Something in the range of anyone over 28?
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Post by Matt on Jan 22, 2021 21:48:28 GMT -5
Agreed.
Will give more incentive to be active and make trades instead of losing them for nothing.
Things to think about:
- what is the cost to the "drafting" team?
- draft order? I know helping the bottom teams is always better, but why give guys to teams that are intentionally losing so they can turn around and trade them for more? Or is there an added stipulation that they can only go back to the team they were drafted from?
Just a couple of thoughts....but I like the idea...if it's feasible!
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Post by tadontask on Jan 22, 2021 22:04:00 GMT -5
Voted no because some teams simply don't bother with a minor league system. I think it makes more sense for real life than a league like this.
Unless there's a Rule 5 feature in the game, then it also requires someone to actually track the available players and run a draft. One of the reasons given for not updating the draft pool was all the extra work.
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Post by CSCommish on Jan 22, 2021 22:34:42 GMT -5
I've been debating the concept, but someone needs to manage it each season. I just don't have the time lol
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Post by Reddington on Jan 23, 2021 12:41:29 GMT -5
easiest would be a team can protect 3 players > 27 and everyone 1.5 star and greater goes into FA. minimum bid 2 yrs 300K for these players
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jan 23, 2021 13:35:53 GMT -5
Voted no because some teams simply don't bother with a minor league system. I think it makes more sense for real life than a league like this. Unless there's a Rule 5 feature in the game, then it also requires someone to actually track the available players and run a draft. One of the reasons given for not updating the draft pool was all the extra work. It's not that hard to quickly run through each minor league system after the file flip and list everyone over 28 and 2 stars or something similar. Teams that don't both with a minor league system aren't successful imo. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 14:00:50 GMT -5
If this is something we’re considering another interesting poll might be how many GM’s have newer versions of OOTP, which already have a rule V function that nobody would have to manage
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jan 23, 2021 14:06:44 GMT -5
I'm not moving to a new version of OOTP the newer ones are way too complicated for the time I have
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 15:30:45 GMT -5
I'm not moving to a new version of OOTP the newer ones are way too complicated for the time I have I also used to think that. Bought a few versions, didn’t learn them. Finally took a few hours and I love them. Far better than 5 |
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Post by tadontask on Jan 23, 2021 15:45:02 GMT -5
It's not that hard to quickly run through each minor league system after the file flip and list everyone over 28 and 2 stars or something similar. Teams that don't both with a minor league system aren't successful imo. That's fine, but it also wouldn't hurt to come up with an idea of how this would look before voting on it. Ideas from Boston and Atlanta are different, and I'm sure there are other ideas. Unless this is just gauging interest in a possible Rule V draft, and then the actual process is discussed and voted on in its finalized form. Another thing to consider - are there actually enough players that fit the criteria to matter? I've got a full system and still might not have any available players according to Atlanta's idea. |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jan 23, 2021 16:26:01 GMT -5
I'm not moving to a new version of OOTP the newer ones are way too complicated for the time I have I also used to think that. Bought a few versions, didn’t learn them. Finally took a few hours and I love them. Far better than 5 I played in a league that went through OOTP18, 19, and 20. I gave up because having things like Scouts on is bullshit. |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jan 23, 2021 16:26:23 GMT -5
I entered the league with a shitty scout, and because of that I just never got a good scout because the good teams never let them go.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jan 23, 2021 16:30:14 GMT -5
It's not that hard to quickly run through each minor league system after the file flip and list everyone over 28 and 2 stars or something similar. Teams that don't both with a minor league system aren't successful imo. That's fine, but it also wouldn't hurt to come up with an idea of how this would look before voting on it. Ideas from Boston and Atlanta are different, and I'm sure there are other ideas. Unless this is just gauging interest in a possible Rule V draft, and then the actual process is discussed and voted on in its finalized form. Another thing to consider - are there actually enough players that fit the criteria to matter? I've got a full system and still might not have any available players according to Atlanta's idea. Here's my full proposal: Rule 5 Draft 2 Round limit until all eligible players are picked or the second round ends. Teams may pass. Teams will not get autos. If your slot goes by and you haven't picked anyone, you are a pass. Players with no major league experience 28 years or older, and players with major league experience over 30 with less than 20 games played or 20 innings pitched. Teams may protect one of each: SP, MR/CL, C, IF, OF Eligible players list would be posted, followed by protections over a period of a few days. This may take place while the regular draft is being formed, bringing activity up in this period. The draft will then start. |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jan 23, 2021 16:32:04 GMT -5
Gives teams a chance to pull from stacked minor league systems that are hoarding, and will give teams a chance to protect depth.
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Post by Reddington on Jan 23, 2021 17:03:23 GMT -5
That's fine, but it also wouldn't hurt to come up with an idea of how this would look before voting on it. Ideas from Boston and Atlanta are different, and I'm sure there are other ideas. Unless this is just gauging interest in a possible Rule V draft, and then the actual process is discussed and voted on in its finalized form. Another thing to consider - are there actually enough players that fit the criteria to matter? I've got a full system and still might not have any available players according to Atlanta's idea. Here's my full proposal: Rule 5 Draft 2 Round limit until all eligible players are picked or the second round ends. Teams may pass. Teams will not get autos. If your slot goes by and you haven't picked anyone, you are a pass. Players with no major league experience 28 years or older, and players with major league experience over 30 with less than 20 games played or 20 innings pitched. Teams may protect one of each: SP, MR/CL, C, IF, OF Eligible players list would be posted, followed by protections over a period of a few days. This may take place while the regular draft is being formed, bringing activity up in this period. The draft will then start. Teams may protect 1 per round, and any player chosen must remain on the ML roster of the team drafting him for at least a season, and cannot be traded |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 17:57:19 GMT -5
I entered the league with a shitty scout, and because of that I just never got a good scout because the good teams never let them go. You can play with scouts off and just use 100% scouting accuracy. You can also turn the coach system off just like here. |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jan 23, 2021 18:31:39 GMT -5
I entered the league with a shitty scout, and because of that I just never got a good scout because the good teams never let them go. You can play with scouts off and just use 100% scouting accuracy. You can also turn the coach system off just like here. haven't found a league like that every new league i looked into used them |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jan 23, 2021 18:31:57 GMT -5
haven't bought OOTP since 20
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2021 18:37:29 GMT -5
There’s very little change from 20 to 21. Really from 18-21
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Post by bigmark on Jan 27, 2021 11:51:40 GMT -5
If this is something we’re considering another interesting poll might be how many GM’s have newer versions of OOTP, which already have a rule V function that nobody would have to manage Ootp 6 n beyond are trash. Used to be in a 6.5 and a 7 league. Hated them ....hard enough to get GM's to be active with simple ootp5 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2021 12:42:43 GMT -5
If this is something we’re considering another interesting poll might be how many GM’s have newer versions of OOTP, which already have a rule V function that nobody would have to manage Ootp 6 n beyond are trash. Used to be in a 6.5 and a 7 league. Hated them ....hard enough to get GM's to be active with simple ootp5 They're actually miles better if you take an hour or two to learn them |
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Post by bigmark on Jan 27, 2021 22:05:30 GMT -5
Ootp 6 n beyond are trash. Used to be in a 6.5 and a 7 league. Hated them ....hard enough to get GM's to be active with simple ootp5 They're actually miles better if you take an hour or two to learn them I learned them lol. Was in the leagues for a few years. Still didn't like them. |
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Post by Reddington on Jan 27, 2021 22:42:53 GMT -5
They're actually miles better if you take an hour or two to learn them I learned them lol. Was in the leagues for a few years. Still didn't like them. |
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