LAN/FLA

[jmich24]

This trade is final once I get confirmation from Chris that I'm understanding the constitution correctly:


The Rank of the Reserved Player will be determined by the Commissioner, which is generally based on the order of the computer picks. For example, if the Yankees have the 21st overall pick in the 1985 draft and reserves Bernie Williams, who is ranked #3, the Yankees' Draft Day Jump Fee would be 18 FPR points.


Other Effects and Draft Day Compensation

In addition to utilizing the team's earliest first round pick to reserve the player, the reserving team will be forced to forfeit draft picks, depending on the the amount of the Draft Day Jump Fee:



0 - 3: Forfeiture of earliest third round pick

4 - 10: Forfeiture of earliest second round pick

11 - 20: Forfeiture of earliest second and earliest third round picks

>>>> 20: Forfeiture of earliest second and earliest third round picks + next available first round pick


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LAN trades: 2007 LANs 1st and PITs 2007 2nd

FLA trades FLA via KCR 2006 1st

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Assuming Kershaw is #1 prospect.  I would be moving up 20 spots from pick 21 to pick #1, costing me pick 21, my earliest 2nd and 3rd, while preserving my "next available first round pick".

[Reddington]

ahhh... WUT?

[Reddington]

you get to keep your 2006 too?

[heatflash]

Lmao the bailout is now there. Told you guys he didn’t have enough points.

[Reddington]

Jul 5, 2023 16:09:15 GMT -5 heatflash said:

Lmao the bailout is now there. Told you guys he didn’t have enough points.

actually he does, even if he stayed at 30

[jmich24]

Jul 5, 2023 16:09:15 GMT -5 heatflash said:

Lmao the bailout is now there. Told you guys he didn’t have enough points.

Get off my thread 🤡
You don’t understand the rules, but continually embarrass your self by “attempting” to talk shit. You’re literally the worst.

[jmich24]

Jul 5, 2023 16:07:48 GMT -5 Reddington said:

you get to keep your 2006 too?

Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

Smart on Florida’s part. I’m going to be worse next year and he will likely get a free 2nd for only dropping a spot or two.

[Play]

A late first and late 2nd for a top 10 pick?

Not adding up

[CSCommish]

If you don't make this trade, you use your 30th pick to reserve Kershaw. Assuming Kershaw is #1, the jump fee is 29. Total cost is 10 + 74 + 29 = 113. Being that the jump fee is 29, you would use your 30th and forfeit your 2006 2nd, 2006 3rd and 2007 1st.

If you make this trade, gaining the FLA 1st at #9, the jump fee drops to 8 and you would forfeit your 2006 2nd. You would keep your 2006 1st at 30 and the 2007 1st as well but that's being traded.

Either way you'd be giving up your 2007 1st.

You would get to keep your 30th overall pick and 2006 3rd but also trade away a 2007 2nd as well. This seems like a wash only to preserve 20 FPR points. You're probably not going to be able to reserve anyone meaningful in the future other than cashing in FPR for reward points.

I'm not sure what FLA gains out of this so I'm tempted to void this for that reason alone.

Not unless this is the KCR 1st.

[jmich24]

It’s not pick 9 it’s pick 21.

Worst case scenario he drops 9 spots for a Free 2nd round pick.

Clarification Edit:

After this trade I would forfeit pick 21 and keep pick 30. Losing my 2006 2nd and 3rd.

With the new points rule.
Part of the motivation is to cash in the extra points, to get positive for opening day 2007.

[CSCommish]

In that case the jump fee is 20 at worst and you'd be using the 21st pick, keeping the 30th pick and forfeiting your 2nd and 3rd. You're trading away your 2007 1st and a 2007 2nd.

The trade basically lets you keep your 30th pick and you give up a 2007 2nd in order to do so.

[jmich24]

Correct. Seems like a win win.

Especially when we get worse and FLA get a mid 20’s 2007 pick.

[Reddington]

Jul 5, 2023 17:25:55 GMT -5 jmich24 said:

Correct. Seems like a win win.

Especially when we get worse and FLA get a mid 20’s 2007 pick.

so Matt traded away a better 1st for a worse 1st for a shit 2nd?  weird 

[fish]

Jul 5, 2023 17:31:47 GMT -5 Reddington said:

Jul 5, 2023 17:25:55 GMT -5 jmich24 said:

Correct. Seems like a win win.

Especially when we get worse and FLA get a mid 20’s 2007 pick.

so Matt traded away a better 1st for a worse 1st for a shit 2nd?  weird 

I’d be trading pick 21 in this years draft, where I have numerous firsts for LA’s first and Pitts 2nd NEXT YEAR. My farm system is bereft of talent and I’m gaining an extra dart throw by MAYBE picking fractionally later in NEXT YEARS 1st. Now if someone has a compelling argument why I shouldn’t make this deal outside of just not wanting LA to be able to pick Kershaw, I’m all ears. This is NOT my 9th pick. It’s the 21st pick I traded for. Anyone??

[bigmark]

Jul 5, 2023 17:55:59 GMT -5 fish said:

Jul 5, 2023 17:31:47 GMT -5 Reddington said:

so Matt traded away a better 1st for a worse 1st for a shit 2nd?  weird 

I’d be trading pick 21 in this years draft, where I have numerous firsts for LA’s first and Pitts 2nd NEXT YEAR. My farm system is bereft of talent and I’m gaining an extra dart throw by MAYBE picking fractionally later in NEXT YEARS 1st. Now if someone has a compelling argument why I shouldn’t make this deal outside of just not wanting LA to be able to pick Kershaw, I’m all ears. This is NOT my 9th pick. It’s the 21st pick I traded for. Anyone??

La can get Kershaw no matter with or without the trade.

[jmich24]

Jul 5, 2023 18:06:37 GMT -5 bigmark said:

Jul 5, 2023 17:55:59 GMT -5 fish said:

I’d be trading pick 21 in this years draft, where I have numerous firsts for LA’s first and Pitts 2nd NEXT YEAR. My farm system is bereft of talent and I’m gaining an extra dart throw by MAYBE picking fractionally later in NEXT YEARS 1st. Now if someone has a compelling argument why I shouldn’t make this deal outside of just not wanting LA to be able to pick Kershaw, I’m all ears. This is NOT my 9th pick. It’s the 21st pick I traded for. Anyone??

La can get Kershaw no matter with or without the trade.

Correct, this trade doesn't warrant the outrage.

Basically giving up a second round pick to move up 4-6 picks?

Makes sense for both of us.

I passed on Chan Ho Park in 1994 to reserve Kershaw here.  This cant be any surprise for anyone paying attention.

Fun trivia:
Did you know Clayton Kershaw and Matt Stafford grew up and played sports together...AS mentioned on every single Fox Telecast forever!  

[galo]

Jul 5, 2023 17:55:59 GMT -5 fish said:

Jul 5, 2023 17:31:47 GMT -5 Reddington said:

so Matt traded away a better 1st for a worse 1st for a shit 2nd?  weird 

I’d be trading pick 21 in this years draft, where I have numerous firsts for LA’s first and Pitts 2nd NEXT YEAR. My farm system is bereft of talent and I’m gaining an extra dart throw by MAYBE picking fractionally later in NEXT YEARS 1st. Now if someone has a compelling argument why I shouldn’t make this deal outside of just not wanting LA to be able to pick Kershaw, I’m all ears. This is NOT my 9th pick. It’s the 21st pick I traded for. Anyone??

Jbitch edited the post. It originally said FLA 1st (#9).

[Reddington]

Jul 5, 2023 18:12:53 GMT -5 jmich24 said:

Jul 5, 2023 18:06:37 GMT -5 bigmark said:

La can get Kershaw no matter with or without the trade.

Correct, this trade doesn't warrant the outrage.

Basically giving up a second round pick to move up 4-6 picks?

Makes sense for both of us.

I passed on Chan Ho Park in 1994 to reserve Kershaw here.  This cant be any surprise for anyone paying attention.

Fun trivia:
Did you know Clayton Kershaw and Matt Stafford grew up and played sports together...AS mentioned on every single Fox Telecast forever!  

did you know Barkly and Shaq's moms were really good friends and when they got into a fight in a game, their moms called them and bitched them out

[jmich24]

Jul 5, 2023 18:14:49 GMT -5 galo said:

Jul 5, 2023 17:55:59 GMT -5 fish said:

I’d be trading pick 21 in this years draft, where I have numerous firsts for LA’s first and Pitts 2nd NEXT YEAR. My farm system is bereft of talent and I’m gaining an extra dart throw by MAYBE picking fractionally later in NEXT YEARS 1st. Now if someone has a compelling argument why I shouldn’t make this deal outside of just not wanting LA to be able to pick Kershaw, I’m all ears. This is NOT my 9th pick. It’s the 21st pick I traded for. Anyone??

Jbitch edited the post. It originally said FLA 1st (#9).

If it isn't too much trouble, id prefer if you referred to me as the back to back to back to back to back to back NL West Division Champion JBitch.

[Reddington]

Jul 5, 2023 18:22:40 GMT -5 jmich24 said:

Jul 5, 2023 18:14:49 GMT -5 galo said:

Jbitch edited the post. It originally said FLA 1st (#9).

If it isn't too much trouble, id prefer if you referred to me as the back to back to back to back to back to back NL West Division Champion JBitch.

sorry... then you would have to refer to me as 

back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back NL East champs Brian

[jmich24]

Jul 5, 2023 18:29:29 GMT -5 Reddington said:

Jul 5, 2023 18:22:40 GMT -5 jmich24 said:

If it isn't too much trouble, id prefer if you referred to me as the back to back to back to back to back to back NL West Division Champion JBitch.

sorry... then you would have to refer to me as 

back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back NL East champs Brian

I think you mis-spelled Asshat.

Impressive for sure.

[fish]

Jul 5, 2023 18:14:49 GMT -5 galo said:

Jul 5, 2023 17:55:59 GMT -5 fish said:

I’d be trading pick 21 in this years draft, where I have numerous firsts for LA’s first and Pitts 2nd NEXT YEAR. My farm system is bereft of talent and I’m gaining an extra dart throw by MAYBE picking fractionally later in NEXT YEARS 1st. Now if someone has a compelling argument why I shouldn’t make this deal outside of just not wanting LA to be able to pick Kershaw, I’m all ears. This is NOT my 9th pick. It’s the 21st pick I traded for. Anyone??

Jbitch edited the post. It originally said FLA 1st (#9).

It was never my first pick nor would have it been. That being said, with no further argument from the peanut gallery, we accept

[bigmark]

Rate krenshàw low. Justice for Verlander

[Reddington]

Jul 5, 2023 18:31:07 GMT -5 jmich24 said:

Jul 5, 2023 18:29:29 GMT -5 Reddington said:

sorry... then you would have to refer to me as 

back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back NL East champs Brian

I think you mis-spelled Asshat.

Impressive for sure.

fixed


the asshat back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back NL East champs Brian

[fish]

Jul 5, 2023 18:37:25 GMT -5 Reddington said:

Jul 5, 2023 18:31:07 GMT -5 jmich24 said:

I think you mis-spelled Asshat.

Impressive for sure.

fixed


the asshat back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back NL East champs Brian

How much talent does that really take when you’re handed Smoltz/Maddux(who should have been a Cub)/Glavine?