dougiejays
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Post by dougiejays on Apr 14, 2020 1:04:42 GMT -5
You may be right I just dont agree with making changes too drastic. Maybe just increase the cost of all upgrades?  no comment... but my counter argument for that is, avg is avg for a reason, and we have none that are avg... that really only slows down the draft and flipper... I mean you   wow this forum has sucky emotes... anyways jokes aside, the only way it will seem realistic for those not dissecting the game as several of us do, is if eventually avg hits is something that is seen on 25-30% of the players imho. Just raising the cost, I don't thing will get us there, but it would be a start before even more drastic measure were tried. LOL everyone's been bitching about this for years and now that I actually have a stacked team we're going to change it? LOL...I do think it should be changed but I actually think it hurts the teams that have stacked big league teams and no minors rather than rebuilding teams, because all those 4.5 star players we dealt away might actually be good players now. |
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Apr 14, 2020 7:16:59 GMT -5
no comment... but my counter argument for that is, avg is avg for a reason, and we have none that are avg... that really only slows down the draft and flipper... I mean you wow this forum has sucky emotes... anyways jokes aside, the only way it will seem realistic for those not dissecting the game as several of us do, is if eventually avg hits is something that is seen on 25-30% of the players imho. Just raising the cost, I don't thing will get us there, but it would be a start before even more drastic measure were tried. LOL everyone's been bitching about this for years and now that I actually have a stacked team we're going to change it? LOL...I do think it should be changed but I actually think it hurts the teams that have stacked big league teams and no minors rather than rebuilding teams, because all those 4.5 star players we dealt away might actually be good players now. in lbb I keep getting nice PDs on picks and haven't had a avg hit guy on my roster in forever... a ton in the minors, but I also have more bril hit guys there than here |
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Post by CSCommish on Apr 15, 2020 7:43:18 GMT -5
Yea, Brian and I are considering several ideas (15 of them) and at this point, leaning towards increasing costs of camps. To Spencer's point, whatever we do needs be gradual.
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Post by CSCommish on Apr 15, 2020 7:44:20 GMT -5
In any case, the draft pool is available for GRIPING. You guys have until tomorrow morning to give me your ideas. Throughout the draft, as players are selected, I will be correcting their jersey numbers and whatnot.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 9:56:16 GMT -5
Melvin Mora seems somewhat under rated, .277/.350, averaged 29 doubles and 18 homers. Not sure what the new ratings look like but I would thank that's at least good in doubles, if not in homers and walks too?
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Apr 15, 2020 10:06:54 GMT -5
Melvin Mora seems somewhat under rated, .277/.350, averaged 29 doubles and 18 homers. Not sure what the new ratings look like but I would thank that's at least good in doubles, if not in homers and walks too? yeah, not sure what happened there. He should be GGFAAG. |
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Apr 15, 2020 10:17:29 GMT -5
homers no where close on new chart and wouldn't have qualified under the old charts either, same for walks.
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Post by Matt on Apr 15, 2020 10:24:21 GMT -5
Was Jeff Cirillo really a brilliant hitter? Only 6 of his 14 career seasons over 300, and two of those were in n Colorado.
When I think of great hitters, he's definitely not near the top of the list.
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Post by Reddington on Apr 15, 2020 10:40:45 GMT -5
It was mentioned in another thread, but as what was laid out for how to do the draft file, he qualified. Also he hit > .320 3 x in MIL only once in colorado. It will be harder going forward for a player to be brill in hits as the bar was raised some, but Cirillo eaked in.
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jahallstar
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Post by jahallstar on Apr 15, 2020 11:11:16 GMT -5
Melvin Mora seems somewhat under rated, .277/.350, averaged 29 doubles and 18 homers. Not sure what the new ratings look like but I would thank that's at least good in doubles, if not in homers and walks too? He was really good for the O's in the mid 2000's. He had a 7 year stretch where he batted .286 averaged 38 doubles , 27.47HR , 72.47 BB per 162. |
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bub6708
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Post by bub6708 on Apr 15, 2020 11:29:44 GMT -5
Was Jeff Cirillo really a brilliant hitter? Only 6 of his 14 career seasons over 300, and two of those were in n Colorado. When I think of great hitters, he's definitely not near the top of the list. That and 1598 hits in 14 years. Never thought of him as an elite hitter especially when we have some good ones coming up the next few years.
Jeter comes to mind - how many hits did he have compared to Cirillo? Can't go beyond brilliant..
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jahallstar
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Post by jahallstar on Apr 15, 2020 11:32:33 GMT -5
Cirillo batter .296....Jeter .310
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bub6708
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Post by bub6708 on Apr 15, 2020 11:39:00 GMT -5
I thought we based it on career hits? Am I wrong? We base it on career BA?
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Apr 15, 2020 11:46:20 GMT -5
I thought we based it on career hits? Am I wrong? We base it on career BA? no as otherwise only 63 players all time hit .315 for a career, and the majority of them were pre 1960 |
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Apr 15, 2020 11:47:32 GMT -5
Melvin Mora seems somewhat under rated, .277/.350, averaged 29 doubles and 18 homers. Not sure what the new ratings look like but I would thank that's at least good in doubles, if not in homers and walks too? He was really good for the O's in the mid 2000's. He had a 7 year stretch where he batted .286 averaged 38 doubles , 27.47HR , 72.47 BB per 162. impossible. He only had two seasons with 27 HR which was his top 2 seasons, cant avg higher than you ever hit... that and he only eclipsed 55 BB 2x with a top of 72 |
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Apr 15, 2020 11:48:03 GMT -5
Basing it on career hits would seem odd to me.
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jahallstar
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Post by jahallstar on Apr 15, 2020 11:48:17 GMT -5
Read closer.
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Post by redsgm on Apr 15, 2020 11:50:28 GMT -5
Can someone explain how you get
Loyalty and Desire for Winner?
Rebuilding and small market teams like Cincinnati have a really hard time with these.
Should SP- Pettitte be Average in Loyal at least cause he played 15 out of 18 games with the NYY??
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jahallstar
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Post by jahallstar on Apr 15, 2020 11:51:11 GMT -5
He was really good for the O's in the mid 2000's. He had a 7 year stretch where he batted .286 averaged 38 doubles , 27.47HR , 72.47 BB per 162.impossible. He only had two seasons with 27 HR which was his top 2 seasons, cant avg higher than you ever hit... |
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Apr 15, 2020 11:58:45 GMT -5
Cirillo batter .296....Jeter .310 if we just looked at career both would be just good |
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Apr 15, 2020 11:59:09 GMT -5
We dont do per 162 tho right?
Its per 500 abs?
I forget.
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Apr 15, 2020 11:59:31 GMT -5
Can someone explain how you get Loyalty and Desire for Winner? Rebuilding and small market teams like Cincinnati have a really hard time with these. Should SP- Pettitte be Average in Loyal at least cause he played 15 out of 18 games with the NYY?? Yes. He should be loyal. |
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jahallstar
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Post by jahallstar on Apr 15, 2020 11:59:57 GMT -5
Can we sticky that info somewhere?
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Apr 15, 2020 12:03:02 GMT -5
impossible. He only had two seasons with 27 HR which was his top 2 seasons, cant avg higher than you ever hit... oh, I see you want to inflate his stats by making him into Cal. his top seasons as a HR hitter he had >700 ABs and parked 27 2x... |
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Apr 15, 2020 12:04:21 GMT -5
We dont do per 162 tho right? Its per 500 abs? I forget. most BB stuff is based off of 550 AB and no I'm not going to inflate stats by doing what ifs of playing every game |
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