Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Aug 12, 2019 20:21:50 GMT -5
COnsistent winning or a new stadium? new stadium and some math. Took a little time to figure out, but slowly have become one of the most profitable Math meaning ticket prices? |
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Reddington
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Atlanta Braves
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Post by Reddington on Aug 12, 2019 20:26:18 GMT -5
new stadium and some math. Took a little time to figure out, but slowly have become one of the most profitable Math meaning ticket prices? yeah to figure out best price point etc |
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Aug 12, 2019 20:32:59 GMT -5
Ya.
Bottom line is the playing field is relatively even. Draft classes dont make leagues uneven. Inactive owners do.
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Reddington
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Atlanta Braves
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Post by Reddington on Aug 12, 2019 20:33:38 GMT -5
even in 78 before the seating expansion, it was still the most profitable year ever to that point for the Braves... and it was the one year I didn't reach .500
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Aug 12, 2019 20:39:51 GMT -5
Who was the ATL GM before you?
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Reddington
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Atlanta Braves
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Post by Reddington on Aug 12, 2019 20:48:59 GMT -5
I think it was toronto and before then the brewers while they were in Milwaukee. Not sure on the years though.
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Post by CSCommish on Aug 12, 2019 20:55:59 GMT -5
Love the talk on this. I do agree ratings are inflated a little bit but Spencer is right, it's all relative.
As to why we edit pools, that's always been a goal to have some sort of realism. Keep in mind this, for every 1 player I edit to make better, there's probably 2 players I edit to make worse (scrubs). So the attempt is to ensure the players who actually did well to have a fighting chance. Some good players still don't make it --- see Willie Stargell.
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Post by CSCommish on Aug 12, 2019 20:59:26 GMT -5
Also, Brian and I have been making league-wide adjustments as of late. So it could have been worse, but we are making it better.
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Aug 12, 2019 21:13:54 GMT -5
Haha. I love that. Gimmies? Yeah. Ok. kinda was the adverb used in front, and are you saying the StL team that started the league wasn't stacked? I mean it only had 6 all stars on it that year (3 of which made the HOF) Just enjoying your ability to turn any post you can into a rip on me and my ability. Kinda old and overplayed. I get it. |
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Aug 12, 2019 21:16:08 GMT -5
What will building a new stadium get me? You can't change market size, my fan loyalty is good and FI is consistently around 100.
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Post by CSCommish on Aug 12, 2019 21:19:41 GMT -5
Increases Fan Loyalty further. Not everyone has to build a new stadium. Though I may consider rules where Fan Interest drops at File Flip when a stadium is 25+ years old and/or hasn't been renovated in 25+ seasons.
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Post by Matt on Aug 12, 2019 21:28:04 GMT -5
Increases Fan Loyalty further. Not everyone has to build a new stadium. Though I may consider rules where Fan Interest drops at File Flip when a stadium is 25+ years old and/or hasn't been renovated in 25+ seasons. What are the levels of fan loyalty? And why penalize the small market teams making them pay or a new stadium instead of being able to spend that on payroll? The stadium payment could be the difference in signing and not signing an important piece for that team. (but i also know that there are a couple of teams that do need to build a stadium, or at least add seats). |
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Post by CSCommish on Aug 12, 2019 21:30:59 GMT -5
Maybe it's limited to teams with above-average markets with 50,000+ seats --- with the justification being that a bigger fan base would be more demanding for a high-end experience and would stop going to games if not improved, whereas a small market team is more inclined to like the family-friendly atmosphere.
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bigmark
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Chicago White Sox
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Post by bigmark on Aug 12, 2019 21:31:37 GMT -5
kinda was the adverb used in front, and are you saying the StL team that started the league wasn't stacked? I mean it only had 6 all stars on it that year (3 of which made the HOF) Just enjoying your ability to turn any post you can into a rip on me and my ability. Kinda old and overplayed. I get it. Another guy on mute is all. What I've done....choosing to just never reply to him. Not worth the time. |
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Post by CSCommish on Aug 12, 2019 21:33:13 GMT -5
Market Size: Almost Nonexistent, Tiny, Small, Below Average, Average, Slightly Above Average, Good, Big, Really Big, HUGE
Fan Loyalty: Extremely Poor, Poor, Fair, Average, Good, Very Good, GREAT
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Post by Matt on Aug 12, 2019 21:41:29 GMT -5
Just enjoying your ability to turn any post you can into a rip on me and my ability. Kinda old and overplayed. I get it. Another guy on mute is all. What I've done....choosing to just never reply to him. Not worth the time. Yep. Just blocked him so I don't see his posts for now. |
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dougiejays
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Toronto Blue Jays
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Post by dougiejays on Aug 12, 2019 21:55:33 GMT -5
I think it was toronto and before then the brewers while they were in Milwaukee. Not sure on the years though. Yeah, it was me. A couple points though. First, when I was Atl GM I really struggled to understand the jacked-up talent level in this league (the exact issue StL is complaining about). Track record with the Jays isn’t amazing either but at least I know what I’m up against. Second, Brianh gets a ton of extra points from board work/articles/etc that I never invested in the team when I was there. |
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Reddington
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Atlanta Braves
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Post by Reddington on Aug 13, 2019 3:45:16 GMT -5
I think it was toronto and before then the brewers while they were in Milwaukee. Not sure on the years though. Yeah, it was me. A couple points though. First, when I was Atl GM I really struggled to understand the jacked-up talent level in this league (the exact issue StL is complaining about). Track record with the Jays isn’t amazing either but at least I know what I’m up against. Second, Brianh gets a ton of extra points from board work/articles/etc that I never invested in the team when I was there. the board points don't have much to do with nickle and diming as much as you can out of attendance. even with a mediocre team (see 1978 pre upkeep build) you can still get more fans to come. |
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Reddington
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Atlanta Braves
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Post by Reddington on Aug 13, 2019 3:54:24 GMT -5
Increases Fan Loyalty further. Not everyone has to build a new stadium. Though I may consider rules where Fan Interest drops at File Flip when a stadium is 25+ years old and/or hasn't been renovated in 25+ seasons. prol not a good idea. no reason to punish GMs for not doing upgrades imho. |
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Aug 13, 2019 3:59:25 GMT -5
kinda was the adverb used in front, and are you saying the StL team that started the league wasn't stacked? I mean it only had 6 all stars on it that year (3 of which made the HOF) Just enjoying your ability to turn any post you can into a rip on me and my ability. Kinda old and overplayed. I get it. oh deer gawd. It's like the erbes reboot, I had the 90 Braves and had I not just dropped out and won it all, would that have been me being amazing? I mean you had 3 other WS spread out over a decade. No where did I say you weren't good at this. I'd answer your follow up question on what upgrading the stadium would do for you, but ya blocked me, so what's the point. |
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Reddington
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Atlanta Braves
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Post by Reddington on Aug 13, 2019 4:34:12 GMT -5
Market Size: Almost Nonexistent, Tiny, Small, Below Average, Average, Slightly Above Average, Good, Big, Really Big, HUGE Fan Loyalty: Extremely Poor, Poor, Fair, Average, Good, Very Good, GREAT still think there should be some way to increase market size, akin to what the Braves did in the 80-90's. They took a sleepy team and made the mostly mediocre players into house hold names. Think I read someplace their games consistently had an above 2 score for Nielsens, which is higher than most of the post season games got last year. |
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dgfred
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Oakland A's
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Post by dgfred on Aug 13, 2019 8:17:57 GMT -5
Start a tv channel  |
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Darryl
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California Angels
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Post by Darryl on Aug 13, 2019 9:55:36 GMT -5
I think it was toronto and before then the brewers while they were in Milwaukee. Not sure on the years though. I was 60 till 68 if I remember correctly. |
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Reddington
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Atlanta Braves
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Post by Reddington on Aug 13, 2019 16:43:40 GMT -5
Start a tv channel just suggested: Build a TV station 100 million no financing, after 5 season market size + 1 Can be increase up to 3 times with a max of big. each increase cost 100 mil and you need to avg x number of fans in seat each year to get it. 3 million tier 1 4.5 million tier 2 station 4.8 million tier 3 or something like that. Something that would help small market teams to grow into larger, but work require some hustle |
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greeme
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New York Mets
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Post by greeme on Aug 14, 2019 8:12:16 GMT -5
We don't get compensation points for picks we traded for?
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