Darryl
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Post by Darryl on Jul 7, 2021 10:22:49 GMT -5
So let's cut this rule going forward. Saves Chris some work
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 7, 2021 10:50:49 GMT -5
So let's cut this rule going forward. Saves Chris some work there has to be some kind of accountability for roster management though, I just don't think this really works. |
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Jul 7, 2021 10:52:00 GMT -5
So let's cut this rule going forward. Saves Chris some work there has to be some kind of accountability for roster management though, I just don't think this really works. You're the reason we have this. Funny that you don't like it...🤣🤣 |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 7, 2021 11:22:17 GMT -5
there has to be some kind of accountability for roster management though, I just don't think this really works. You're the reason we have this. Funny that you don't like it...🤣🤣 I asked for some kind of management. I didn't pick this Chris did and we tried it. I can say it doesn't really do much after 2 years of it. |
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Jul 7, 2021 11:25:00 GMT -5
I say this MLC rule gets reversed.
If you have a tanking complaint you PM Chris and he deals with it.
Or Chris hires a tanking mod that checks all rosters.
I think Pming should work though. Keep the drama off the boards.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 7, 2021 11:25:05 GMT -5
Honestly I feel like the best way would be a once a year check around May 1st and if you're not playing a fully developed top prospect or a guy under 30 you signed in FA they're forced up. it should be a commish judgement probably.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 7, 2021 11:26:26 GMT -5
it would be similar to players currently forcing release on the FA thing
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 7, 2021 11:27:23 GMT -5
someone could mod the check and send a list to Chris for reviewal
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 7, 2021 11:30:47 GMT -5
catchers are done btw halfway through 1B
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Jul 7, 2021 11:33:26 GMT -5
Honestly I feel like the best way would be a once a year check around May 1st and if you're not playing a fully developed top prospect or a guy under 30 you signed in FA they're forced up. it should be a commish judgement probably. I don't think prospects should be touched. People have varying opinions on that. Plus starting their clock when you want is key. |
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Jul 7, 2021 11:36:03 GMT -5
Or we be adults at let people run their teams as they see fit?
I mean all the complaining and not one word said about the worst GM we've currently got in the league.
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Jul 7, 2021 11:43:04 GMT -5
Or we be adults at let people run their teams as they see fit? I mean all the complaining and not one word said about the worst GM we've currently got in the league. Then we can't have any punishments for "tanking" |
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Padres
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Post by Padres on Jul 7, 2021 11:44:19 GMT -5
Honestly I feel like the best way would be a once a year check around May 1st and if you're not playing a fully developed top prospect or a guy under 30 you signed in FA they're forced up. it should be a commish judgement probably. So punish the guys that have depth in his system because he has a 30 year old that he doesn't have room for and has for insurance. Also leaving it to the judgement of the commish is subjective imo though he would be fair and consistent i feel. If they are forced up who is forced down? Seems like this strategy is a good one but will be punished to try. |
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Jul 7, 2021 11:47:50 GMT -5
Or we be adults at let people run their teams as they see fit? I mean all the complaining and not one word said about the worst GM we've currently got in the league. Then we can't have any punishments for "tanking" There's acceptable tanking and then there's just not giving a shit. |
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bigmark
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Post by bigmark on Jul 7, 2021 13:19:53 GMT -5
So we scrap the rule and reverse the releases and forced 300k contracts
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Danchevy
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Post by Danchevy on Jul 7, 2021 13:51:42 GMT -5
I'm all for scrapping the rule. Seems like it would be too much work to ask this years stuff gets reversed. Just going forward for next season.
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Jul 7, 2021 13:57:33 GMT -5
Then we can't have any punishments for "tanking" There's acceptable tanking and then there's just not giving a shit.
IMO you have rules and follow them or you dont have rules and let people do what they want. If you enforce some type of tanking penalty without rules it seems personal.
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Matt
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Post by Matt on Jul 7, 2021 14:28:33 GMT -5
There's acceptable tanking and then there's just not giving a shit.
IMO you have rules and follow them or you dont have rules and let people do what they want. If you enforce some type of tanking penalty without rules it seems personal.
IMO I'm not sure how taking players from rosters is being compared to tanking. I think the purpose of this to start was to give tanking teams more "roster fillers" (and someone was obsessed with someone else's minor league teams). All it's done from my end is take away those fringe players I've gotten lucky with PDs before. Tanking is a totally different issue/ topic. |
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Spencer
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Post by Spencer on Jul 7, 2021 14:41:35 GMT -5
IMO you have rules and follow them or you dont have rules and let people do what they want. If you enforce some type of tanking penalty without rules it seems personal.
IMO I'm not sure how taking players from rosters is being compared to tanking. I think the purpose of this to start was to give tanking teams more "roster fillers" (and someone was obsessed with someone else's minor league teams). All it's done from my end is take away those fringe players I've gotten lucky with PDs before. Tanking is a totally different issue/ topic. Ok. It seems like Break I'd the reason this rule came about. But he stated this wasn't really a concern of his. Tanking was his concern. So I'm saying let's eliminate this rule and concentrate on tanking. |
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bigmark
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Chicago White Sox
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Post by bigmark on Jul 7, 2021 14:47:50 GMT -5
lou Whitaker got a HR PD to Brill at age 38 this past offseason I just had a couple good PDs to 2 33-year-olds that just barely missed the cut because I called them up in September. Devo finally gets the ratings jumps weve all wanted him to get for years as jays fans lol |
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Post by jmich24 on Jul 7, 2021 17:51:09 GMT -5
I would volunteer to be the Tanking Czar for payment in points. If Chris chooses this route.
As the Czar I would absolutely NOT force any blue stars to the majors. If I deemed a gold star player is OBVIOUSLY better than a player on the ML roster, I could PM the Comish.
Check all rosters after the opening day sim and watch the teams obviously trying to loose 100 games throughout the season?
In the end this is Chris's decision and I think it pretty obvious he is only trying to help curb tanking.
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jul 7, 2021 23:35:22 GMT -5
I would volunteer to be the Tanking Czar for payment in points. If Chris chooses this route. As the Czar I would absolutely NOT force any blue stars to the majors. If I deemed a gold star player is OBVIOUSLY better than a player on the ML roster, I could PM the Comish. Check all rosters after the opening day sim and watch the teams obviously trying to loose 100 games throughout the season? In the end this is Chris's decision and I think it pretty obvious he is only trying to help curb tanking. I like this. CSCommish |
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jul 7, 2021 23:43:24 GMT -5
My 2 cents are; The only thing I dont like about players sitting in the minors, is if someone was to offer them a contract, they wouldn't accept a minor contract. If someone wants a gold spec, they should be allowed to buy them off a minor team, OR the team that is holding them should have to match the contract. (something reasonable) Hording decent talent, makes it hard for Chris to fill out a tanking teams roster.
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bigmark
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Post by bigmark on Jul 7, 2021 23:44:43 GMT -5
My 2 cents are; The only thing I dont like about players sitting in the minors, is if someone was to offer them a contract, they wouldn't accept a minor contract. If someone wants a gold spec, they should be allowed to buy them off a minor team, OR the team that is holding them should have to match the contract. (something reasonable) Hording decent talent, makes it hard for Chris to fill out a tanking teams roster. Tanking team rosters should be filled by a competent gm who fills out. |
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Reddington
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Post by Reddington on Jul 8, 2021 0:13:41 GMT -5
My 2 cents are; The only thing I dont like about players sitting in the minors, is if someone was to offer them a contract, they wouldn't accept a minor contract. If someone wants a gold spec, they should be allowed to buy them off a minor team, OR the team that is holding them should have to match the contract. (something reasonable) Hording decent talent, makes it hard for Chris to fill out a tanking teams roster. Tanking team rosters should be filled by a competent gm who fills out. Just saying fewer FA's make it easier to tank. |
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