dougiejays
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Post by dougiejays on Jul 8, 2021 4:55:52 GMT -5
My 2 cents are; The only thing I dont like about players sitting in the minors, is if someone was to offer them a contract, they wouldn't accept a minor contract. If someone wants a gold spec, they should be allowed to buy them off a minor team, OR the team that is holding them should have to match the contract. (something reasonable) Hording decent talent, makes it hard for Chris to fill out a tanking teams roster. Then let’s just have a Rule 5 draft? Or something similar? |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 8, 2021 5:21:13 GMT -5
i don't think rule 5 would do much either
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Post by Matt on Jul 8, 2021 7:29:19 GMT -5
My 2 cents are; The only thing I dont like about players sitting in the minors, is if someone was to offer them a contract, they wouldn't accept a minor contract. If someone wants a gold spec, they should be allowed to buy them off a minor team, OR the team that is holding them should have to match the contract. (something reasonable) Hording decent talent, makes it hard for Chris to fill out a tanking teams roster. So punish good GMs for building depth and probably getting lucky with some good PDs? |
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dougiejays
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Post by dougiejays on Jul 8, 2021 7:35:31 GMT -5
My 2 cents are; The only thing I dont like about players sitting in the minors, is if someone was to offer them a contract, they wouldn't accept a minor contract. If someone wants a gold spec, they should be allowed to buy them off a minor team, OR the team that is holding them should have to match the contract. (something reasonable) Hording decent talent, makes it hard for Chris to fill out a tanking teams roster. So punish good GMs for building depth and probably getting lucky with some good PDs? Everyone's way overreacting to this. I hoard fringe guys as much as anyone hoping for PD but the odds of actually losing someone significant in this way are relatively low. Even just taking the guys that Chris cut from my team this year, I'd say something like 90% would still be backups even with a great PD hit. |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 8, 2021 8:31:51 GMT -5
My 2 cents are; The only thing I dont like about players sitting in the minors, is if someone was to offer them a contract, they wouldn't accept a minor contract. If someone wants a gold spec, they should be allowed to buy them off a minor team, OR the team that is holding them should have to match the contract. (something reasonable) Hording decent talent, makes it hard for Chris to fill out a tanking teams roster. So punish good GMs for building depth and probably getting lucky with some good PDs? you're complaining about losing a one in every 5-8 year thing. |
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Post by Matt on Jul 8, 2021 8:35:49 GMT -5
So punish good GMs for building depth and probably getting lucky with some good PDs? you're complaining about losing a one in every 5-8 year thing. And? Why should I lose a guy I either drafted, signed in FA or traded for just because another guy is sucking and losing on purpose to get the #1 pick? How many of the released guys have made a roster somewhere else? Probably slim to none... so is this actually accomplishing anything other than giving Chris more to do at the flip? |
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dougiejays
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Post by dougiejays on Jul 8, 2021 8:43:53 GMT -5
Think of it like minor league free agents. In MLB they feel that if a guy isn't getting called up by his original organization past his prospect days then he has a right to look for work elsewhere.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 8, 2021 9:10:36 GMT -5
you're complaining about losing a one in every 5-8 year thing. And? Why should I lose a guy I either drafted, signed in FA or traded for just because another guy is sucking and losing on purpose to get the #1 pick? How many of the released guys have made a roster somewhere else? Probably slim to none... so is this actually accomplishing anything other than giving Chris more to do at the flip? you're arguing against yourself. I'm not arguing for this to be a thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2021 9:43:01 GMT -5
And if we switched to a newer version of OOTP this would all be mute because the game automatically makes you put your players on your 40 man roster or lose them. Problem solved. If a 52 year old man can figure them out I'm pretty sure y'all can.
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dougiejays
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Post by dougiejays on Jul 8, 2021 10:17:04 GMT -5
And if we switched to a newer version of OOTP this would all be mute because the game automatically makes you put your players on your 40 man roster or lose them. Problem solved. If a 52 year old man can figure them out I'm pretty sure y'all can. AFAIK the newer versions are completely different games. Not like we could just transfer over |
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Post by Reddington on Jul 8, 2021 12:15:59 GMT -5
you're complaining about losing a one in every 5-8 year thing. And? Why should I lose a guy I either drafted, signed in FA or traded for just because another guy is sucking and losing on purpose to get the #1 pick? How many of the released guys have made a roster somewhere else? Probably slim to none... so is this actually accomplishing anything other than giving Chris more to do at the flip? no, was just making an observation on the tail end |
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Post by Reddington on Jul 8, 2021 12:17:40 GMT -5
Think of it like minor league free agents. In MLB they feel that if a guy isn't getting called up by his original organization past his prospect days then he has a right to look for work elsewhere. and this is what I would like, if someone wants them, they can offer a contract (2x1 mil type thing) the owning org would have the right to match, but... |
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Post by bigmark on Jul 8, 2021 13:03:41 GMT -5
And if we switched to a newer version of OOTP this would all be mute because the game automatically makes you put your players on your 40 man roster or lose them. Problem solved. If a 52 year old man can figure them out I'm pretty sure y'all can. Newer versions are garbage. Used to get them. Ootp5 will always be the best |
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Post by dgfred on Jul 8, 2021 15:03:28 GMT -5
I am in 6 and 6.5 leagues and players can stay in minors forever. If you want to pay for crap.
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Post by bigmark on Jul 8, 2021 15:07:11 GMT -5
I say we just reverse the releases this season. Revert the contracts back and say screw it. This clearly didn't work as intended.
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dougiejays
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Post by dougiejays on Jul 8, 2021 15:08:29 GMT -5
I say we just reverse the releases this season. Revert the contracts back and say screw it. This clearly didn't work as intended. Seems like a lot of extra work lol. Just change to a different rule next year if you have to |
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jul 8, 2021 15:20:47 GMT -5
the issue isn't even players staying in the minors forever, the issue is teams that don't play them and don't have an excuse not to.
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Post by bigmark on Jul 8, 2021 16:05:21 GMT -5
I say we just reverse the releases this season. Revert the contracts back and say screw it. This clearly didn't work as intended. Seems like a lot of extra work lol. Just change to a different rule next year if you have to If we scrap the rule tho it should be done. Otherwise punishing teams for one year. |
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Post by Reddington on Jul 8, 2021 16:29:33 GMT -5
the issue isn't even players staying in the minors forever, the issue is teams that don't play them and don't have an excuse not to. |
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Post by Reddington on Jul 8, 2021 16:39:56 GMT -5
File and pages are up (soon); main file is off to break to work on ammy players. finances aren't correct from what I can see |
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Post by Reddington on Jul 8, 2021 16:51:16 GMT -5
File and pages are up (soon); main file is off to break to work on ammy players. finances aren't correct from what I can see disregard, all is correct |
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Post by CSCommish on Aug 15, 2021 20:59:03 GMT -5
Where did we leave off on this?
I'm leaning towards scrapping the rule and appointing a tanking czar as suggested by someone in this thread.
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dougiejays
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Post by dougiejays on Aug 19, 2021 8:12:39 GMT -5
Where did we leave off on this? I'm leaning towards scrapping the rule and appointing a tanking czar as suggested by someone in this thread. How bout a three-person committee. That would mean that: a) it feels less personal/subjective when someone gets penalized b) the czar himself couldn’t get away with tanking |
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Post by stooolfan on Aug 19, 2021 8:58:36 GMT -5
Where did we leave off on this? I'm leaning towards scrapping the rule and appointing a tanking czar as suggested by someone in this thread. :/ rip |
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Post by bub6708 on Aug 19, 2021 10:40:57 GMT -5
Where did we leave off on this? I'm leaning towards scrapping the rule and appointing a tanking czar as suggested by someone in this thread. How bout a three-person committee. That would mean that: a) it feels less personal/subjective when someone gets penalized b) the czar himself couldn’t get away with tanking
AL czar looks at NL tanking, NL czar looks at AL. Unless you were talking about Chris as 3rd person.
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