Idea

[steve]

Oct 3, 2013 8:06:51 GMT -5 soonerfantu said:

Looking at what specific pages on BR? I tried to find an all time team WAR page, but couldn't. Did you guys just click through the team page each year, and take note of the good players?

www.baseball-reference.com/teams/LAD/leaders_bat.shtml

www.baseball-reference.com/teams/LAD/leaders_pitch.shtml

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[steve]

Oct 3, 2013 9:04:35 GMT -5 Boston Red Sox said:

Dodgers:
1950-1955: SP Sandy Koufax (53.2 WAR)
1960-1965: SP Don Sutton (68.7 WAR)
1970-1977: SP Bob Welch (43.5 WAR)
1980-1980: SP Fernando Valenzuela (37.4 WAR)
1990-1995: 3B Adrian Beltre (70.5 WAR) holy shit I knew he was getting there but he could retire today and should be a HOF.
2000-2006: SP Clayton Kershaw (32.2 WAR)
2010-?: ?

Yasiel!

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[CSCommish]

Oct 3, 2013 8:51:41 GMT -5 steve said:

Oct 3, 2013 8:06:51 GMT -5 soonerfantu said:

Looking at what specific pages on BR? I tried to find an all time team WAR page, but couldn't. Did you guys just click through the team page each year, and take note of the good players?

www.baseball-reference.com/teams/LAD/leaders_bat.shtml

www.baseball-reference.com/teams/LAD/leaders_pitch.shtml

That's what I used, except I used the Register:

www.baseball-reference.com/teams/LAD/bat.shtml

www.baseball-reference.com/teams/LAD/pitch.shtml

[soonerfantu]

Oct 3, 2013 9:04:35 GMT -5 Boston Red Sox said:

Dodgers:
1950-1955: SP Sandy Koufax (53.2 WAR)
1960-1965: SP Don Sutton (68.7 WAR)
1970-1977: SP Bob Welch (43.5 WAR)
1980-1980: SP Fernando Valenzuela (37.4 WAR)
1990-1995: 3B Adrian Beltre (70.5 WAR) holy shit I knew he was getting there but he could retire today and should be a HOF.
2000-2006: SP Clayton Kershaw (32.2 WAR)
2010-?: ?

Thanks.  That is pretty darn close to what I thought it would be.  Hershiser might be an option over Fernando, and I mike look a little closer at where Pedro Guerrero falls in.

But I think Koufax, Sutton, and Kershaw are for certains at this point.  And maybe Beltre.

The links that Chris posted are what I was looking for.  I'll give this another look at some point today.  Boss wants me to get some stuff done this morning.  Dumb. 

[CSCommish]

stupid real world stuff.

[CSCommish]

Matt (Cubs), I am going by drafted year, so Sandberg would be 1970s.

[CSCommish]

If no cost, what if the "price" to pay is you lose your 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks (for that one season) to be able to "reserve" your franchise player for that decade?

[Boston Red Sox]

Oct 3, 2013 10:21:45 GMT -5 CSCommish said:

If no cost, what if the "price" to pay is you lose your 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks (for that one season) to be able to "reserve" your franchise player for that decade?

Yes that sounds perfect.

[Boston Red Sox]

Oct 3, 2013 10:17:49 GMT -5 soonerfantu said:

Oct 3, 2013 9:04:35 GMT -5 Boston Red Sox said:

Dodgers:
1950-1955: SP Sandy Koufax (53.2 WAR)
1960-1965: SP Don Sutton (68.7 WAR)
1970-1977: SP Bob Welch (43.5 WAR)
1980-1980: SP Fernando Valenzuela (37.4 WAR)
1990-1995: 3B Adrian Beltre (70.5 WAR) holy shit I knew he was getting there but he could retire today and should be a HOF.
2000-2006: SP Clayton Kershaw (32.2 WAR)
2010-?: ?

Thanks.  That is pretty darn close to what I thought it would be.  Hershiser might be an option over Fernando, and I mike look a little closer at where Pedro Guerrero falls in.

But I think Koufax, Sutton, and Kershaw are for certains at this point.  And maybe Beltre.

The links that Chris posted are what I was looking for.  I'll give this another look at some point today.  Boss wants me to get some stuff done this morning.  Dumb. 

No problem. Dodgers have a lengthy history of great pitching so it would make sense for you to always have that Ace.

[Boston Red Sox]

Hershiser either started in the 70's or had bad stats and is overrated. I can't remember why I didn't put him.

[soonerfantu]

Oct 3, 2013 10:21:45 GMT -5 CSCommish said:

If no cost, what if the "price" to pay is you lose your 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks (for that one season) to be able to "reserve" your franchise player for that decade?

I'd limit it to 1st and 2nd.  I know third round doesn't have much talent, but the depth is very helpful, especially to any teams that are already struggling.  Keep in mind, a lot of teams may not even be moving up very much to get their guy, depending on the logistics of how this ends up working.

[Boston Red Sox]

Eh asking to keep the 3rd seems like bartering. I think it's a fair price.

[soonerfantu]

Oct 3, 2013 10:37:53 GMT -5 Boston Red Sox said:

Eh asking to keep the 3rd seems like bartering. I think it's a fair price.

So Team A has the 5th pick in a draft in the 80's.  The franchise player they want is probably the 3rd best player in the draft, thus would be gone before their pick.  They have to give up their 2nd and 3rd round picks to move up 2 draft spots?  Eh.

That actually gives me an idea.  How about we let the "price" be determined by how far up in the draft a team is asking to move?  If a guy is already drafting in the first 1/3 of the draft, there is no price (other than losing their 1st).  If a guy is drafting in the middle 1/3 of the draft, and wants to move up, it costs them their 1st and 2nd.  Drafting in the final 1/3 of the draft, they give up their 1st, 2nd and 3rd.  That way the teams that are pretty good already, are giving up slightly more than a team that is bad, and is really only asking to move up a couple of spots.  And of course, they have to be the team's original 1st round pick.  They can't trade 1st rounders with another team in order to make this work.

[CSCommish]

Jeremy, I was thinking of that too.

[Spencer]

Oct 3, 2013 10:21:45 GMT -5 CSCommish said:

If no cost, what if the "price" to pay is you lose your 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks (for that one season) to be able to "reserve" your franchise player for that decade?

Perfect.

[Spencer]

Man. The Giants acquired so much talent in the 50s

[soonerfantu]

Oct 3, 2013 10:58:45 GMT -5 CSCommish said:

Jeremy, I was thinking of that too.

Uh huh. 

That way there is at least a little bit of a difference in price depending on how far up in that draft you are moving.  Not a major difference, but a little.

[CSCommish]

I was/am!

[steve]

Oct 3, 2013 10:50:46 GMT -5 soonerfantu said:

Oct 3, 2013 10:37:53 GMT -5 Boston Red Sox said:

Eh asking to keep the 3rd seems like bartering. I think it's a fair price.

So Team A has the 5th pick in a draft in the 80's.  The franchise player they want is probably the 3rd best player in the draft, thus would be gone before their pick.  They have to give up their 2nd and 3rd round picks to move up 2 draft spots?  Eh.

That actually gives me an idea.  How about we let the "price" be determined by how far up in the draft a team is asking to move?  If a guy is already drafting in the first 1/3 of the draft, there is no price (other than losing their 1st).  If a guy is drafting in the middle 1/3 of the draft, and wants to move up, it costs them their 1st and 2nd.  Drafting in the final 1/3 of the draft, they give up their 1st, 2nd and 3rd.  That way the teams that are pretty good already, are giving up slightly more than a team that is bad, and is really only asking to move up a couple of spots.  And of course, they have to be the team's original 1st round pick.  They can't trade 1st rounders with another team in order to make this work.

i like this

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[steve]

what the hell is up with that little snippet that always gets added on the end of my posts

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[Sha-Le Unique]

Oct 3, 2013 10:21:45 GMT -5 CSCommish said:

If no cost, what if the "price" to pay is you lose your 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks (for that one season) to be able to "reserve" your franchise player for that decade?

I like this. Definitely sounds fair.

[CSCommish]

Oct 3, 2013 12:15:40 GMT -5 steve said:

what the hell is up with that little snippet that always gets added on the end of my posts

It's pissing me off, I am going to edit all your posts lol.

[steve]

i think it only happens on my work computer

[Spencer]

Sucks that McCovey Cepeda Marichal and Perry were all acquired in the 50s

[Spencer]

And Jeff Kent was 80s.